How do you determine if the following series converges?












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$$sum_{k=1}^infty mathrm{(1-frac{1}{k})}^{mathrm{k}^{2}}$$
I tried using the limit comparison test with $$sum_{k=1}^infty mathrm{(1-frac{1}{k})}^{mathrm{k}^{}}$$ but this leads to a limit of 0, which doesn't help. I think this may involve some use of
$mathrm{e}^x$, but I don't know where else to start. Any suggestions?










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    This is susceptible to the same approach as my answer to a different question.
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    Do you know what $left(1-frac{1}{k}right)^{k}$ converges to?
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$$sum_{k=1}^infty mathrm{(1-frac{1}{k})}^{mathrm{k}^{2}}$$
I tried using the limit comparison test with $$sum_{k=1}^infty mathrm{(1-frac{1}{k})}^{mathrm{k}^{}}$$ but this leads to a limit of 0, which doesn't help. I think this may involve some use of
$mathrm{e}^x$, but I don't know where else to start. Any suggestions?










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    This is susceptible to the same approach as my answer to a different question.
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    Do you know what $left(1-frac{1}{k}right)^{k}$ converges to?
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    I cannot believe how horrible my intuition is with this stuff especially given how old I am.
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$$sum_{k=1}^infty mathrm{(1-frac{1}{k})}^{mathrm{k}^{2}}$$
I tried using the limit comparison test with $$sum_{k=1}^infty mathrm{(1-frac{1}{k})}^{mathrm{k}^{}}$$ but this leads to a limit of 0, which doesn't help. I think this may involve some use of
$mathrm{e}^x$, but I don't know where else to start. Any suggestions?










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$$sum_{k=1}^infty mathrm{(1-frac{1}{k})}^{mathrm{k}^{2}}$$
I tried using the limit comparison test with $$sum_{k=1}^infty mathrm{(1-frac{1}{k})}^{mathrm{k}^{}}$$ but this leads to a limit of 0, which doesn't help. I think this may involve some use of
$mathrm{e}^x$, but I don't know where else to start. Any suggestions?







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    This is susceptible to the same approach as my answer to a different question.
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    Do you know what $left(1-frac{1}{k}right)^{k}$ converges to?
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    – JavaMan
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    I cannot believe how horrible my intuition is with this stuff especially given how old I am.
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    – Randall
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  • $begingroup$
    This is susceptible to the same approach as my answer to a different question.
    $endgroup$
    – T. Bongers
    47 mins ago










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    Do you know what $left(1-frac{1}{k}right)^{k}$ converges to?
    $endgroup$
    – JavaMan
    41 mins ago












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    I cannot believe how horrible my intuition is with this stuff especially given how old I am.
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    – Randall
    11 mins ago
















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This is susceptible to the same approach as my answer to a different question.
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– T. Bongers
47 mins ago




$begingroup$
This is susceptible to the same approach as my answer to a different question.
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– T. Bongers
47 mins ago












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Do you know what $left(1-frac{1}{k}right)^{k}$ converges to?
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– JavaMan
41 mins ago






$begingroup$
Do you know what $left(1-frac{1}{k}right)^{k}$ converges to?
$endgroup$
– JavaMan
41 mins ago














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I cannot believe how horrible my intuition is with this stuff especially given how old I am.
$endgroup$
– Randall
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Note that $$left( 1-frac1k right)^kle e^{-1}$$



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    The root test works. Consider
    $$lim sup sqrt[k]{left(1 - frac{1}{k}right)^{k^2}} = lim sup left(1 - frac{1}{k}right)^k = e^{-1} < 1,$$
    hence the series converges.






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      The ratio test is also interesting
      $$a_k=left(1-frac{1}{k}right)^{k^2}implies log(a_k)=k ^2 logleft(1-frac{1}{k}right)$$
      $$log(a_{k+1})-log(a_k)=(k+1) ^2 logleft(1-frac{1}{k+1}right)-k ^2 logleft(1-frac{1}{k}right)$$



      Develop as a Taylor series for large values of $k$ to get
      $$log(a_{k+1})-log(a_k)=-1+frac{1}{3 k^2}+O(left(frac{1}{k^3}right)$$
      Continue with Taylor
      $$frac{a_{k+1}}{a_k}=e^{log(a_{k+1})-log(a_k)}=frac 1 eleft(1+frac{1}{3 k^2}+Oleft(frac{1}{k^3}right)right)to frac 1 e$$






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        $begin{array}\
        (1-frac1{k})^{k^2}
        &=(frac{k-1}{k})^{k^2}\
        &=dfrac1{(frac{k}{k-1})^{k^2}}\
        &=dfrac1{(1+frac{1}{k-1})^{k^2}}\
        &=dfrac1{((1+frac{1}{k-1})^{k})^k}\
        &<dfrac1{(1+frac{k}{k-1})^k}
        qquadtext{by Bernoulli}\
        &=dfrac1{(frac{2k-1}{k-1})^k}\
        &<dfrac1{(frac{2k-2}{k-1})^k}\
        &=dfrac1{2^k}\
        end{array}
        $



        and the sum of this converges.






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          Note that $$left( 1-frac1k right)^kle e^{-1}$$



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            Note that $$left( 1-frac1k right)^kle e^{-1}$$



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              Note that $$left( 1-frac1k right)^kle e^{-1}$$



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                  The root test works. Consider
                  $$lim sup sqrt[k]{left(1 - frac{1}{k}right)^{k^2}} = lim sup left(1 - frac{1}{k}right)^k = e^{-1} < 1,$$
                  hence the series converges.






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                    The root test works. Consider
                    $$lim sup sqrt[k]{left(1 - frac{1}{k}right)^{k^2}} = lim sup left(1 - frac{1}{k}right)^k = e^{-1} < 1,$$
                    hence the series converges.






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                      The root test works. Consider
                      $$lim sup sqrt[k]{left(1 - frac{1}{k}right)^{k^2}} = lim sup left(1 - frac{1}{k}right)^k = e^{-1} < 1,$$
                      hence the series converges.






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                      The root test works. Consider
                      $$lim sup sqrt[k]{left(1 - frac{1}{k}right)^{k^2}} = lim sup left(1 - frac{1}{k}right)^k = e^{-1} < 1,$$
                      hence the series converges.







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                          The ratio test is also interesting
                          $$a_k=left(1-frac{1}{k}right)^{k^2}implies log(a_k)=k ^2 logleft(1-frac{1}{k}right)$$
                          $$log(a_{k+1})-log(a_k)=(k+1) ^2 logleft(1-frac{1}{k+1}right)-k ^2 logleft(1-frac{1}{k}right)$$



                          Develop as a Taylor series for large values of $k$ to get
                          $$log(a_{k+1})-log(a_k)=-1+frac{1}{3 k^2}+O(left(frac{1}{k^3}right)$$
                          Continue with Taylor
                          $$frac{a_{k+1}}{a_k}=e^{log(a_{k+1})-log(a_k)}=frac 1 eleft(1+frac{1}{3 k^2}+Oleft(frac{1}{k^3}right)right)to frac 1 e$$






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                            The ratio test is also interesting
                            $$a_k=left(1-frac{1}{k}right)^{k^2}implies log(a_k)=k ^2 logleft(1-frac{1}{k}right)$$
                            $$log(a_{k+1})-log(a_k)=(k+1) ^2 logleft(1-frac{1}{k+1}right)-k ^2 logleft(1-frac{1}{k}right)$$



                            Develop as a Taylor series for large values of $k$ to get
                            $$log(a_{k+1})-log(a_k)=-1+frac{1}{3 k^2}+O(left(frac{1}{k^3}right)$$
                            Continue with Taylor
                            $$frac{a_{k+1}}{a_k}=e^{log(a_{k+1})-log(a_k)}=frac 1 eleft(1+frac{1}{3 k^2}+Oleft(frac{1}{k^3}right)right)to frac 1 e$$






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                              The ratio test is also interesting
                              $$a_k=left(1-frac{1}{k}right)^{k^2}implies log(a_k)=k ^2 logleft(1-frac{1}{k}right)$$
                              $$log(a_{k+1})-log(a_k)=(k+1) ^2 logleft(1-frac{1}{k+1}right)-k ^2 logleft(1-frac{1}{k}right)$$



                              Develop as a Taylor series for large values of $k$ to get
                              $$log(a_{k+1})-log(a_k)=-1+frac{1}{3 k^2}+O(left(frac{1}{k^3}right)$$
                              Continue with Taylor
                              $$frac{a_{k+1}}{a_k}=e^{log(a_{k+1})-log(a_k)}=frac 1 eleft(1+frac{1}{3 k^2}+Oleft(frac{1}{k^3}right)right)to frac 1 e$$






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                              The ratio test is also interesting
                              $$a_k=left(1-frac{1}{k}right)^{k^2}implies log(a_k)=k ^2 logleft(1-frac{1}{k}right)$$
                              $$log(a_{k+1})-log(a_k)=(k+1) ^2 logleft(1-frac{1}{k+1}right)-k ^2 logleft(1-frac{1}{k}right)$$



                              Develop as a Taylor series for large values of $k$ to get
                              $$log(a_{k+1})-log(a_k)=-1+frac{1}{3 k^2}+O(left(frac{1}{k^3}right)$$
                              Continue with Taylor
                              $$frac{a_{k+1}}{a_k}=e^{log(a_{k+1})-log(a_k)}=frac 1 eleft(1+frac{1}{3 k^2}+Oleft(frac{1}{k^3}right)right)to frac 1 e$$







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                                  $begin{array}\
                                  (1-frac1{k})^{k^2}
                                  &=(frac{k-1}{k})^{k^2}\
                                  &=dfrac1{(frac{k}{k-1})^{k^2}}\
                                  &=dfrac1{(1+frac{1}{k-1})^{k^2}}\
                                  &=dfrac1{((1+frac{1}{k-1})^{k})^k}\
                                  &<dfrac1{(1+frac{k}{k-1})^k}
                                  qquadtext{by Bernoulli}\
                                  &=dfrac1{(frac{2k-1}{k-1})^k}\
                                  &<dfrac1{(frac{2k-2}{k-1})^k}\
                                  &=dfrac1{2^k}\
                                  end{array}
                                  $



                                  and the sum of this converges.






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                                    $begin{array}\
                                    (1-frac1{k})^{k^2}
                                    &=(frac{k-1}{k})^{k^2}\
                                    &=dfrac1{(frac{k}{k-1})^{k^2}}\
                                    &=dfrac1{(1+frac{1}{k-1})^{k^2}}\
                                    &=dfrac1{((1+frac{1}{k-1})^{k})^k}\
                                    &<dfrac1{(1+frac{k}{k-1})^k}
                                    qquadtext{by Bernoulli}\
                                    &=dfrac1{(frac{2k-1}{k-1})^k}\
                                    &<dfrac1{(frac{2k-2}{k-1})^k}\
                                    &=dfrac1{2^k}\
                                    end{array}
                                    $



                                    and the sum of this converges.






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                                      $begin{array}\
                                      (1-frac1{k})^{k^2}
                                      &=(frac{k-1}{k})^{k^2}\
                                      &=dfrac1{(frac{k}{k-1})^{k^2}}\
                                      &=dfrac1{(1+frac{1}{k-1})^{k^2}}\
                                      &=dfrac1{((1+frac{1}{k-1})^{k})^k}\
                                      &<dfrac1{(1+frac{k}{k-1})^k}
                                      qquadtext{by Bernoulli}\
                                      &=dfrac1{(frac{2k-1}{k-1})^k}\
                                      &<dfrac1{(frac{2k-2}{k-1})^k}\
                                      &=dfrac1{2^k}\
                                      end{array}
                                      $



                                      and the sum of this converges.






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                                      $begin{array}\
                                      (1-frac1{k})^{k^2}
                                      &=(frac{k-1}{k})^{k^2}\
                                      &=dfrac1{(frac{k}{k-1})^{k^2}}\
                                      &=dfrac1{(1+frac{1}{k-1})^{k^2}}\
                                      &=dfrac1{((1+frac{1}{k-1})^{k})^k}\
                                      &<dfrac1{(1+frac{k}{k-1})^k}
                                      qquadtext{by Bernoulli}\
                                      &=dfrac1{(frac{2k-1}{k-1})^k}\
                                      &<dfrac1{(frac{2k-2}{k-1})^k}\
                                      &=dfrac1{2^k}\
                                      end{array}
                                      $



                                      and the sum of this converges.







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