Could Earth still survive if we lost almost 90% of all surface water?
$begingroup$
I have been toying with the idea that all oceans are gone. Underground water still exists but the Earth has essentially turned into the planet from Dune.
My characters all live / survive out where the oceans once were as it's the closest source for water. The Earth is now just one big desert.
My question is, instead of 100% of all surface water gone, is 90% more feasible? I plan on having larger civilisations, mining towns etc. I want water to be a rare commodity, but not so rare that only 5 people can live off it.
As the majority of the story takes place out in these vast oceans of desert, there are going to be some large swathes of distance in-between continents / countries. Initially people were going to get around on horse back, but there's too much distance for a horse to travel, then I considered intercontinental railroads but that is taking technology in a direction I hadn't planned on going. So, if I leave a small portion of the ocean, travel by boat could seem plausible.
reality-check transportation ocean deserts
New contributor
$endgroup$
|
show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
I have been toying with the idea that all oceans are gone. Underground water still exists but the Earth has essentially turned into the planet from Dune.
My characters all live / survive out where the oceans once were as it's the closest source for water. The Earth is now just one big desert.
My question is, instead of 100% of all surface water gone, is 90% more feasible? I plan on having larger civilisations, mining towns etc. I want water to be a rare commodity, but not so rare that only 5 people can live off it.
As the majority of the story takes place out in these vast oceans of desert, there are going to be some large swathes of distance in-between continents / countries. Initially people were going to get around on horse back, but there's too much distance for a horse to travel, then I considered intercontinental railroads but that is taking technology in a direction I hadn't planned on going. So, if I leave a small portion of the ocean, travel by boat could seem plausible.
reality-check transportation ocean deserts
New contributor
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
Given majority of trade is done by moving cargo across the water (be it ancient times or modern times), if 90% water vanishes, it is guaranteed there will be a global economic crisis of unprecedented levels.
$endgroup$
– Physicist137
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
Yeah we're well and truly past the point of global economic crisis at this part of the story ;)
$endgroup$
– Tomás Richardson
3 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
Earth will survive just fine without water. Now, life on Earth is a different story...
$endgroup$
– John Dvorak
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
The immediate problem is that with the oceans gone, the hydrological cycle slows to a crawl -- basically, there is no more rain, and all Earth is a fierce desert. What little water is left will naturally pool in the deepest parts of the ocean basins, where the high pressure will make for hellish temperatures. Plants will die, and with plants gone almost all oxygen will be consumed in less that a million years.
$endgroup$
– AlexP
1 hour ago
1
$begingroup$
Mandatory XKCD. draining everything dry means all (or nearly all) the aquifers are dry, too. Everything dribbles to the lowest point.
$endgroup$
– JBH
1 hour ago
|
show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
I have been toying with the idea that all oceans are gone. Underground water still exists but the Earth has essentially turned into the planet from Dune.
My characters all live / survive out where the oceans once were as it's the closest source for water. The Earth is now just one big desert.
My question is, instead of 100% of all surface water gone, is 90% more feasible? I plan on having larger civilisations, mining towns etc. I want water to be a rare commodity, but not so rare that only 5 people can live off it.
As the majority of the story takes place out in these vast oceans of desert, there are going to be some large swathes of distance in-between continents / countries. Initially people were going to get around on horse back, but there's too much distance for a horse to travel, then I considered intercontinental railroads but that is taking technology in a direction I hadn't planned on going. So, if I leave a small portion of the ocean, travel by boat could seem plausible.
reality-check transportation ocean deserts
New contributor
$endgroup$
I have been toying with the idea that all oceans are gone. Underground water still exists but the Earth has essentially turned into the planet from Dune.
My characters all live / survive out where the oceans once were as it's the closest source for water. The Earth is now just one big desert.
My question is, instead of 100% of all surface water gone, is 90% more feasible? I plan on having larger civilisations, mining towns etc. I want water to be a rare commodity, but not so rare that only 5 people can live off it.
As the majority of the story takes place out in these vast oceans of desert, there are going to be some large swathes of distance in-between continents / countries. Initially people were going to get around on horse back, but there's too much distance for a horse to travel, then I considered intercontinental railroads but that is taking technology in a direction I hadn't planned on going. So, if I leave a small portion of the ocean, travel by boat could seem plausible.
reality-check transportation ocean deserts
reality-check transportation ocean deserts
New contributor
New contributor
edited 49 mins ago
Cyn
6,0111935
6,0111935
New contributor
asked 3 hours ago
Tomás RichardsonTomás Richardson
61
61
New contributor
New contributor
1
$begingroup$
Given majority of trade is done by moving cargo across the water (be it ancient times or modern times), if 90% water vanishes, it is guaranteed there will be a global economic crisis of unprecedented levels.
$endgroup$
– Physicist137
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
Yeah we're well and truly past the point of global economic crisis at this part of the story ;)
$endgroup$
– Tomás Richardson
3 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
Earth will survive just fine without water. Now, life on Earth is a different story...
$endgroup$
– John Dvorak
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
The immediate problem is that with the oceans gone, the hydrological cycle slows to a crawl -- basically, there is no more rain, and all Earth is a fierce desert. What little water is left will naturally pool in the deepest parts of the ocean basins, where the high pressure will make for hellish temperatures. Plants will die, and with plants gone almost all oxygen will be consumed in less that a million years.
$endgroup$
– AlexP
1 hour ago
1
$begingroup$
Mandatory XKCD. draining everything dry means all (or nearly all) the aquifers are dry, too. Everything dribbles to the lowest point.
$endgroup$
– JBH
1 hour ago
|
show 1 more comment
1
$begingroup$
Given majority of trade is done by moving cargo across the water (be it ancient times or modern times), if 90% water vanishes, it is guaranteed there will be a global economic crisis of unprecedented levels.
$endgroup$
– Physicist137
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
Yeah we're well and truly past the point of global economic crisis at this part of the story ;)
$endgroup$
– Tomás Richardson
3 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
Earth will survive just fine without water. Now, life on Earth is a different story...
$endgroup$
– John Dvorak
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
The immediate problem is that with the oceans gone, the hydrological cycle slows to a crawl -- basically, there is no more rain, and all Earth is a fierce desert. What little water is left will naturally pool in the deepest parts of the ocean basins, where the high pressure will make for hellish temperatures. Plants will die, and with plants gone almost all oxygen will be consumed in less that a million years.
$endgroup$
– AlexP
1 hour ago
1
$begingroup$
Mandatory XKCD. draining everything dry means all (or nearly all) the aquifers are dry, too. Everything dribbles to the lowest point.
$endgroup$
– JBH
1 hour ago
1
1
$begingroup$
Given majority of trade is done by moving cargo across the water (be it ancient times or modern times), if 90% water vanishes, it is guaranteed there will be a global economic crisis of unprecedented levels.
$endgroup$
– Physicist137
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
Given majority of trade is done by moving cargo across the water (be it ancient times or modern times), if 90% water vanishes, it is guaranteed there will be a global economic crisis of unprecedented levels.
$endgroup$
– Physicist137
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
Yeah we're well and truly past the point of global economic crisis at this part of the story ;)
$endgroup$
– Tomás Richardson
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
Yeah we're well and truly past the point of global economic crisis at this part of the story ;)
$endgroup$
– Tomás Richardson
3 hours ago
2
2
$begingroup$
Earth will survive just fine without water. Now, life on Earth is a different story...
$endgroup$
– John Dvorak
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
Earth will survive just fine without water. Now, life on Earth is a different story...
$endgroup$
– John Dvorak
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
The immediate problem is that with the oceans gone, the hydrological cycle slows to a crawl -- basically, there is no more rain, and all Earth is a fierce desert. What little water is left will naturally pool in the deepest parts of the ocean basins, where the high pressure will make for hellish temperatures. Plants will die, and with plants gone almost all oxygen will be consumed in less that a million years.
$endgroup$
– AlexP
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
The immediate problem is that with the oceans gone, the hydrological cycle slows to a crawl -- basically, there is no more rain, and all Earth is a fierce desert. What little water is left will naturally pool in the deepest parts of the ocean basins, where the high pressure will make for hellish temperatures. Plants will die, and with plants gone almost all oxygen will be consumed in less that a million years.
$endgroup$
– AlexP
1 hour ago
1
1
$begingroup$
Mandatory XKCD. draining everything dry means all (or nearly all) the aquifers are dry, too. Everything dribbles to the lowest point.
$endgroup$
– JBH
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
Mandatory XKCD. draining everything dry means all (or nearly all) the aquifers are dry, too. Everything dribbles to the lowest point.
$endgroup$
– JBH
1 hour ago
|
show 1 more comment
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
There are a number of issues with eliminating our planet's oceans...
Our planet's gravity holds onto our water pretty tightly. The energies needed to evacuate several oceans worth of water out into space would probably also take our atmosphere along for the ride. You could send the water deeper into the planet's crust, but that leads to other issues...
50-85% of our oxygen comes from phytoplankton which live in the oceans near the surface. Eliminate the oceans (or even just poison them badly enough) and that oxygen goes bye-bye. Similarly, if the water submerges deeper into the crust, the percentage that remains near the surface will decrease greatly, leaving less room for the phytoplankton. So no matter where the water goes, oxygen will be in short supply after it is gone.
To combat the oxygen loss, you could evolve the phytoplankton to no longer require an aquatic environment. They could continue doing their job for us, living off of the nutrient rich silt and rotting fish corpses which cover the newly exposed ocean floor. That would give you a green and smelly desert, but at least your characters would still be able to breathe.
There would be other issues such as climate change and storm intensification. We might even discover that the former ocean waves served a hidden function, absorbing momentum from the winds which would otherwise rise to constant storm force everywhere. Your ocean-less planet is quickly transforming into a literal hell on Earth.
Earth would undoubtedly survive without its oceans, but its current infestation of organic life would probably not remain upon it for long.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
+1 for the last paragraph - Earth'll be fine. We won't, but that's not the question being asked. ;)
$endgroup$
– jdunlop
1 hour ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The single biggest issue you'll face is the loss of thermal mass. One of the key reasons that deserts are so hot during the day, so cold at night is that there's no water that soaks up the heat and releases it slowly through the night. In your world, this is now the norm so your days will be extremely hot, and nights extremely cold.
Within the bounds of habitability? With underground homes, perhaps. I wouldn't want to be living on the surface though.
Water in such an environment is very precious, and your inhabitants will most likely have mechanisms similar to those described in Dune for rendering water from the dead and other biological material for re-use. Their Stillsuits would also be a likely invention as you wouldn't want to waste sweat or urine because of the water content.
Of bigger concern would be the impact on vegetation, both marine and land based. The real issue here is that trees (which you'll still need to generate oxygen, especially now the phytoplankton is gone) need lots of water to grow, and they expect to live in an environment where they regularly get rainfall. You've also got the food issue as crops need water. Meat is definitely out because you won't have enough water for grass, and the amount of water required to 'raise' a meal of red meat by comparison to a vegetable based meal is massive.
Even with 10% of the previous water levels, I don't see you rebuilding large cities of any kind because the amount of water required in most mining and industrial applications is prohibitive and the infrastructure required to do so requires seeding from an industrial complex probably from before the water loss.
I'd see society degenerating into small clans, fiercely protecting what water holdings and crops they have the manpower to defend. Clan structures don't scale well, the lack of water also makes trade next to impossible because of the increased cost of 'shipping' and as such, societies won't reach the critical mass of size where there is sufficient food and protection in place to support a small core of researchers or scientists tasked with making things better.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");
StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "579"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});
function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: false,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: null,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});
}
});
Tomás Richardson is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fworldbuilding.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f137219%2fcould-earth-still-survive-if-we-lost-almost-90-of-all-surface-water%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
There are a number of issues with eliminating our planet's oceans...
Our planet's gravity holds onto our water pretty tightly. The energies needed to evacuate several oceans worth of water out into space would probably also take our atmosphere along for the ride. You could send the water deeper into the planet's crust, but that leads to other issues...
50-85% of our oxygen comes from phytoplankton which live in the oceans near the surface. Eliminate the oceans (or even just poison them badly enough) and that oxygen goes bye-bye. Similarly, if the water submerges deeper into the crust, the percentage that remains near the surface will decrease greatly, leaving less room for the phytoplankton. So no matter where the water goes, oxygen will be in short supply after it is gone.
To combat the oxygen loss, you could evolve the phytoplankton to no longer require an aquatic environment. They could continue doing their job for us, living off of the nutrient rich silt and rotting fish corpses which cover the newly exposed ocean floor. That would give you a green and smelly desert, but at least your characters would still be able to breathe.
There would be other issues such as climate change and storm intensification. We might even discover that the former ocean waves served a hidden function, absorbing momentum from the winds which would otherwise rise to constant storm force everywhere. Your ocean-less planet is quickly transforming into a literal hell on Earth.
Earth would undoubtedly survive without its oceans, but its current infestation of organic life would probably not remain upon it for long.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
+1 for the last paragraph - Earth'll be fine. We won't, but that's not the question being asked. ;)
$endgroup$
– jdunlop
1 hour ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
There are a number of issues with eliminating our planet's oceans...
Our planet's gravity holds onto our water pretty tightly. The energies needed to evacuate several oceans worth of water out into space would probably also take our atmosphere along for the ride. You could send the water deeper into the planet's crust, but that leads to other issues...
50-85% of our oxygen comes from phytoplankton which live in the oceans near the surface. Eliminate the oceans (or even just poison them badly enough) and that oxygen goes bye-bye. Similarly, if the water submerges deeper into the crust, the percentage that remains near the surface will decrease greatly, leaving less room for the phytoplankton. So no matter where the water goes, oxygen will be in short supply after it is gone.
To combat the oxygen loss, you could evolve the phytoplankton to no longer require an aquatic environment. They could continue doing their job for us, living off of the nutrient rich silt and rotting fish corpses which cover the newly exposed ocean floor. That would give you a green and smelly desert, but at least your characters would still be able to breathe.
There would be other issues such as climate change and storm intensification. We might even discover that the former ocean waves served a hidden function, absorbing momentum from the winds which would otherwise rise to constant storm force everywhere. Your ocean-less planet is quickly transforming into a literal hell on Earth.
Earth would undoubtedly survive without its oceans, but its current infestation of organic life would probably not remain upon it for long.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
+1 for the last paragraph - Earth'll be fine. We won't, but that's not the question being asked. ;)
$endgroup$
– jdunlop
1 hour ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
There are a number of issues with eliminating our planet's oceans...
Our planet's gravity holds onto our water pretty tightly. The energies needed to evacuate several oceans worth of water out into space would probably also take our atmosphere along for the ride. You could send the water deeper into the planet's crust, but that leads to other issues...
50-85% of our oxygen comes from phytoplankton which live in the oceans near the surface. Eliminate the oceans (or even just poison them badly enough) and that oxygen goes bye-bye. Similarly, if the water submerges deeper into the crust, the percentage that remains near the surface will decrease greatly, leaving less room for the phytoplankton. So no matter where the water goes, oxygen will be in short supply after it is gone.
To combat the oxygen loss, you could evolve the phytoplankton to no longer require an aquatic environment. They could continue doing their job for us, living off of the nutrient rich silt and rotting fish corpses which cover the newly exposed ocean floor. That would give you a green and smelly desert, but at least your characters would still be able to breathe.
There would be other issues such as climate change and storm intensification. We might even discover that the former ocean waves served a hidden function, absorbing momentum from the winds which would otherwise rise to constant storm force everywhere. Your ocean-less planet is quickly transforming into a literal hell on Earth.
Earth would undoubtedly survive without its oceans, but its current infestation of organic life would probably not remain upon it for long.
$endgroup$
There are a number of issues with eliminating our planet's oceans...
Our planet's gravity holds onto our water pretty tightly. The energies needed to evacuate several oceans worth of water out into space would probably also take our atmosphere along for the ride. You could send the water deeper into the planet's crust, but that leads to other issues...
50-85% of our oxygen comes from phytoplankton which live in the oceans near the surface. Eliminate the oceans (or even just poison them badly enough) and that oxygen goes bye-bye. Similarly, if the water submerges deeper into the crust, the percentage that remains near the surface will decrease greatly, leaving less room for the phytoplankton. So no matter where the water goes, oxygen will be in short supply after it is gone.
To combat the oxygen loss, you could evolve the phytoplankton to no longer require an aquatic environment. They could continue doing their job for us, living off of the nutrient rich silt and rotting fish corpses which cover the newly exposed ocean floor. That would give you a green and smelly desert, but at least your characters would still be able to breathe.
There would be other issues such as climate change and storm intensification. We might even discover that the former ocean waves served a hidden function, absorbing momentum from the winds which would otherwise rise to constant storm force everywhere. Your ocean-less planet is quickly transforming into a literal hell on Earth.
Earth would undoubtedly survive without its oceans, but its current infestation of organic life would probably not remain upon it for long.
edited 1 hour ago
jdunlop
7,53311643
7,53311643
answered 3 hours ago
Henry TaylorHenry Taylor
44.7k870164
44.7k870164
$begingroup$
+1 for the last paragraph - Earth'll be fine. We won't, but that's not the question being asked. ;)
$endgroup$
– jdunlop
1 hour ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
+1 for the last paragraph - Earth'll be fine. We won't, but that's not the question being asked. ;)
$endgroup$
– jdunlop
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
+1 for the last paragraph - Earth'll be fine. We won't, but that's not the question being asked. ;)
$endgroup$
– jdunlop
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
+1 for the last paragraph - Earth'll be fine. We won't, but that's not the question being asked. ;)
$endgroup$
– jdunlop
1 hour ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The single biggest issue you'll face is the loss of thermal mass. One of the key reasons that deserts are so hot during the day, so cold at night is that there's no water that soaks up the heat and releases it slowly through the night. In your world, this is now the norm so your days will be extremely hot, and nights extremely cold.
Within the bounds of habitability? With underground homes, perhaps. I wouldn't want to be living on the surface though.
Water in such an environment is very precious, and your inhabitants will most likely have mechanisms similar to those described in Dune for rendering water from the dead and other biological material for re-use. Their Stillsuits would also be a likely invention as you wouldn't want to waste sweat or urine because of the water content.
Of bigger concern would be the impact on vegetation, both marine and land based. The real issue here is that trees (which you'll still need to generate oxygen, especially now the phytoplankton is gone) need lots of water to grow, and they expect to live in an environment where they regularly get rainfall. You've also got the food issue as crops need water. Meat is definitely out because you won't have enough water for grass, and the amount of water required to 'raise' a meal of red meat by comparison to a vegetable based meal is massive.
Even with 10% of the previous water levels, I don't see you rebuilding large cities of any kind because the amount of water required in most mining and industrial applications is prohibitive and the infrastructure required to do so requires seeding from an industrial complex probably from before the water loss.
I'd see society degenerating into small clans, fiercely protecting what water holdings and crops they have the manpower to defend. Clan structures don't scale well, the lack of water also makes trade next to impossible because of the increased cost of 'shipping' and as such, societies won't reach the critical mass of size where there is sufficient food and protection in place to support a small core of researchers or scientists tasked with making things better.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The single biggest issue you'll face is the loss of thermal mass. One of the key reasons that deserts are so hot during the day, so cold at night is that there's no water that soaks up the heat and releases it slowly through the night. In your world, this is now the norm so your days will be extremely hot, and nights extremely cold.
Within the bounds of habitability? With underground homes, perhaps. I wouldn't want to be living on the surface though.
Water in such an environment is very precious, and your inhabitants will most likely have mechanisms similar to those described in Dune for rendering water from the dead and other biological material for re-use. Their Stillsuits would also be a likely invention as you wouldn't want to waste sweat or urine because of the water content.
Of bigger concern would be the impact on vegetation, both marine and land based. The real issue here is that trees (which you'll still need to generate oxygen, especially now the phytoplankton is gone) need lots of water to grow, and they expect to live in an environment where they regularly get rainfall. You've also got the food issue as crops need water. Meat is definitely out because you won't have enough water for grass, and the amount of water required to 'raise' a meal of red meat by comparison to a vegetable based meal is massive.
Even with 10% of the previous water levels, I don't see you rebuilding large cities of any kind because the amount of water required in most mining and industrial applications is prohibitive and the infrastructure required to do so requires seeding from an industrial complex probably from before the water loss.
I'd see society degenerating into small clans, fiercely protecting what water holdings and crops they have the manpower to defend. Clan structures don't scale well, the lack of water also makes trade next to impossible because of the increased cost of 'shipping' and as such, societies won't reach the critical mass of size where there is sufficient food and protection in place to support a small core of researchers or scientists tasked with making things better.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The single biggest issue you'll face is the loss of thermal mass. One of the key reasons that deserts are so hot during the day, so cold at night is that there's no water that soaks up the heat and releases it slowly through the night. In your world, this is now the norm so your days will be extremely hot, and nights extremely cold.
Within the bounds of habitability? With underground homes, perhaps. I wouldn't want to be living on the surface though.
Water in such an environment is very precious, and your inhabitants will most likely have mechanisms similar to those described in Dune for rendering water from the dead and other biological material for re-use. Their Stillsuits would also be a likely invention as you wouldn't want to waste sweat or urine because of the water content.
Of bigger concern would be the impact on vegetation, both marine and land based. The real issue here is that trees (which you'll still need to generate oxygen, especially now the phytoplankton is gone) need lots of water to grow, and they expect to live in an environment where they regularly get rainfall. You've also got the food issue as crops need water. Meat is definitely out because you won't have enough water for grass, and the amount of water required to 'raise' a meal of red meat by comparison to a vegetable based meal is massive.
Even with 10% of the previous water levels, I don't see you rebuilding large cities of any kind because the amount of water required in most mining and industrial applications is prohibitive and the infrastructure required to do so requires seeding from an industrial complex probably from before the water loss.
I'd see society degenerating into small clans, fiercely protecting what water holdings and crops they have the manpower to defend. Clan structures don't scale well, the lack of water also makes trade next to impossible because of the increased cost of 'shipping' and as such, societies won't reach the critical mass of size where there is sufficient food and protection in place to support a small core of researchers or scientists tasked with making things better.
$endgroup$
The single biggest issue you'll face is the loss of thermal mass. One of the key reasons that deserts are so hot during the day, so cold at night is that there's no water that soaks up the heat and releases it slowly through the night. In your world, this is now the norm so your days will be extremely hot, and nights extremely cold.
Within the bounds of habitability? With underground homes, perhaps. I wouldn't want to be living on the surface though.
Water in such an environment is very precious, and your inhabitants will most likely have mechanisms similar to those described in Dune for rendering water from the dead and other biological material for re-use. Their Stillsuits would also be a likely invention as you wouldn't want to waste sweat or urine because of the water content.
Of bigger concern would be the impact on vegetation, both marine and land based. The real issue here is that trees (which you'll still need to generate oxygen, especially now the phytoplankton is gone) need lots of water to grow, and they expect to live in an environment where they regularly get rainfall. You've also got the food issue as crops need water. Meat is definitely out because you won't have enough water for grass, and the amount of water required to 'raise' a meal of red meat by comparison to a vegetable based meal is massive.
Even with 10% of the previous water levels, I don't see you rebuilding large cities of any kind because the amount of water required in most mining and industrial applications is prohibitive and the infrastructure required to do so requires seeding from an industrial complex probably from before the water loss.
I'd see society degenerating into small clans, fiercely protecting what water holdings and crops they have the manpower to defend. Clan structures don't scale well, the lack of water also makes trade next to impossible because of the increased cost of 'shipping' and as such, societies won't reach the critical mass of size where there is sufficient food and protection in place to support a small core of researchers or scientists tasked with making things better.
answered 3 hours ago
Tim B IITim B II
26.9k659113
26.9k659113
add a comment |
add a comment |
Tomás Richardson is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Tomás Richardson is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Tomás Richardson is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Tomás Richardson is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Thanks for contributing an answer to Worldbuilding Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fworldbuilding.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f137219%2fcould-earth-still-survive-if-we-lost-almost-90-of-all-surface-water%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
1
$begingroup$
Given majority of trade is done by moving cargo across the water (be it ancient times or modern times), if 90% water vanishes, it is guaranteed there will be a global economic crisis of unprecedented levels.
$endgroup$
– Physicist137
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
Yeah we're well and truly past the point of global economic crisis at this part of the story ;)
$endgroup$
– Tomás Richardson
3 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
Earth will survive just fine without water. Now, life on Earth is a different story...
$endgroup$
– John Dvorak
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
The immediate problem is that with the oceans gone, the hydrological cycle slows to a crawl -- basically, there is no more rain, and all Earth is a fierce desert. What little water is left will naturally pool in the deepest parts of the ocean basins, where the high pressure will make for hellish temperatures. Plants will die, and with plants gone almost all oxygen will be consumed in less that a million years.
$endgroup$
– AlexP
1 hour ago
1
$begingroup$
Mandatory XKCD. draining everything dry means all (or nearly all) the aquifers are dry, too. Everything dribbles to the lowest point.
$endgroup$
– JBH
1 hour ago