Does YouTube delete video dislikes?
On some YouTube videos, particularly highly downvoted ones, I often see comments asserting that their dislikes on the video are being deleted, either by YouTube or the channel itself.
From the Gillette "We Believe" ad:
Fake dislike count: 761k of dislikes.. Real (but censored) dislikes count: 2.6M of dislikes..
Fake likes, and removing dislikes. I will Never buy Gillette again, i hope they go out of business.
I disliked the video. But, it is automatically getting undisliked. YouTube is being dishonest.
Without YouTube's cloak of censorship, this video would have about 3 million dislikes.
Anyone else noticing that the downvotes are diminishing? As I write, the downvotes are 138,153—yet when I first saw this video a few minutes ago, they were at +140,000 downvotes. Is Susan Wojcicki massaging the numbers at Gillette's urging? Inquiring minds want to know.
A post from the Google Product Forums:
What can be done to stop YouTube's moderators from deleting another 3 MILLION dislikes and another 3 MILLION comments they don't agree with for political reasons from this video?
Reddit: YouTube removing dislikes from rewind:
Don’t be dumb... youtube caches dislikes so that there main servers don’t get pounded with millions of people doing this. Dislike once and wait maybe a hour and check later, it will be there.
I just disliked, and it was at the same number they’re definitely deleting shit
Reddit: Blizzard somehow just deleted 100k dislikes from their Diablo announcement video
Bottom line: when there's a lot of automated activity, Google comes in every now and then and scrubs the data of anything that looks suspect. Not shockingly (given that 4chan has been heavily involved in the uproar) there are a lot of bots involved in this process.
People are saying maybe they cleared bots but why didn't the likes go down either, at least by SOME amount.
So my questions are:
- Is it true that the number of dislikes on a video can and does decrease en masse over time? (It seems to be true.)
- What might be the cause of this? Can a channel delete dislikes? Does YouTube have an automated algorithm that deletes dislikes that seem to be from bots? Does YouTube remove dislikes if you haven't watched 80% of the video? (Obviously, it's possible that users might decide to all undo their downvotes later, but that seems implausible.)
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On some YouTube videos, particularly highly downvoted ones, I often see comments asserting that their dislikes on the video are being deleted, either by YouTube or the channel itself.
From the Gillette "We Believe" ad:
Fake dislike count: 761k of dislikes.. Real (but censored) dislikes count: 2.6M of dislikes..
Fake likes, and removing dislikes. I will Never buy Gillette again, i hope they go out of business.
I disliked the video. But, it is automatically getting undisliked. YouTube is being dishonest.
Without YouTube's cloak of censorship, this video would have about 3 million dislikes.
Anyone else noticing that the downvotes are diminishing? As I write, the downvotes are 138,153—yet when I first saw this video a few minutes ago, they were at +140,000 downvotes. Is Susan Wojcicki massaging the numbers at Gillette's urging? Inquiring minds want to know.
A post from the Google Product Forums:
What can be done to stop YouTube's moderators from deleting another 3 MILLION dislikes and another 3 MILLION comments they don't agree with for political reasons from this video?
Reddit: YouTube removing dislikes from rewind:
Don’t be dumb... youtube caches dislikes so that there main servers don’t get pounded with millions of people doing this. Dislike once and wait maybe a hour and check later, it will be there.
I just disliked, and it was at the same number they’re definitely deleting shit
Reddit: Blizzard somehow just deleted 100k dislikes from their Diablo announcement video
Bottom line: when there's a lot of automated activity, Google comes in every now and then and scrubs the data of anything that looks suspect. Not shockingly (given that 4chan has been heavily involved in the uproar) there are a lot of bots involved in this process.
People are saying maybe they cleared bots but why didn't the likes go down either, at least by SOME amount.
So my questions are:
- Is it true that the number of dislikes on a video can and does decrease en masse over time? (It seems to be true.)
- What might be the cause of this? Can a channel delete dislikes? Does YouTube have an automated algorithm that deletes dislikes that seem to be from bots? Does YouTube remove dislikes if you haven't watched 80% of the video? (Obviously, it's possible that users might decide to all undo their downvotes later, but that seems implausible.)
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Please only answer with actual evidence and not personal theories such as "they do it", "it's an anti-fraud script", "it's eventual consistency", etc. Skeptics is not the place for speculation and personal opinions, but for reporting facts. We delete answers which are not reference based.
– Sklivvz♦
yesterday
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@JanDoggen this is really notable, see: google.com/search?q=diablo+disappearing+dislikes
– Sklivvz♦
yesterday
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Note that there most probably will be no official detailed answer. Google doesn't want you to game the ranking system (which likes and dislikes are part of), so they will be intentionally vague about its inner workings. Much like SO won't tell how exactly the vote reversing script works.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
yesterday
4
It should be noted that Youtube would be reasonably justified in trying to reject likes/dislikes produced by "bots". Whether this is their only motivation, and whether they are doing a reasonable job of it, however, is impossible to judge from this distance.
– Daniel R Hicks
yesterday
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SE does the same thing.
– coteyr
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show 5 more comments
On some YouTube videos, particularly highly downvoted ones, I often see comments asserting that their dislikes on the video are being deleted, either by YouTube or the channel itself.
From the Gillette "We Believe" ad:
Fake dislike count: 761k of dislikes.. Real (but censored) dislikes count: 2.6M of dislikes..
Fake likes, and removing dislikes. I will Never buy Gillette again, i hope they go out of business.
I disliked the video. But, it is automatically getting undisliked. YouTube is being dishonest.
Without YouTube's cloak of censorship, this video would have about 3 million dislikes.
Anyone else noticing that the downvotes are diminishing? As I write, the downvotes are 138,153—yet when I first saw this video a few minutes ago, they were at +140,000 downvotes. Is Susan Wojcicki massaging the numbers at Gillette's urging? Inquiring minds want to know.
A post from the Google Product Forums:
What can be done to stop YouTube's moderators from deleting another 3 MILLION dislikes and another 3 MILLION comments they don't agree with for political reasons from this video?
Reddit: YouTube removing dislikes from rewind:
Don’t be dumb... youtube caches dislikes so that there main servers don’t get pounded with millions of people doing this. Dislike once and wait maybe a hour and check later, it will be there.
I just disliked, and it was at the same number they’re definitely deleting shit
Reddit: Blizzard somehow just deleted 100k dislikes from their Diablo announcement video
Bottom line: when there's a lot of automated activity, Google comes in every now and then and scrubs the data of anything that looks suspect. Not shockingly (given that 4chan has been heavily involved in the uproar) there are a lot of bots involved in this process.
People are saying maybe they cleared bots but why didn't the likes go down either, at least by SOME amount.
So my questions are:
- Is it true that the number of dislikes on a video can and does decrease en masse over time? (It seems to be true.)
- What might be the cause of this? Can a channel delete dislikes? Does YouTube have an automated algorithm that deletes dislikes that seem to be from bots? Does YouTube remove dislikes if you haven't watched 80% of the video? (Obviously, it's possible that users might decide to all undo their downvotes later, but that seems implausible.)
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On some YouTube videos, particularly highly downvoted ones, I often see comments asserting that their dislikes on the video are being deleted, either by YouTube or the channel itself.
From the Gillette "We Believe" ad:
Fake dislike count: 761k of dislikes.. Real (but censored) dislikes count: 2.6M of dislikes..
Fake likes, and removing dislikes. I will Never buy Gillette again, i hope they go out of business.
I disliked the video. But, it is automatically getting undisliked. YouTube is being dishonest.
Without YouTube's cloak of censorship, this video would have about 3 million dislikes.
Anyone else noticing that the downvotes are diminishing? As I write, the downvotes are 138,153—yet when I first saw this video a few minutes ago, they were at +140,000 downvotes. Is Susan Wojcicki massaging the numbers at Gillette's urging? Inquiring minds want to know.
A post from the Google Product Forums:
What can be done to stop YouTube's moderators from deleting another 3 MILLION dislikes and another 3 MILLION comments they don't agree with for political reasons from this video?
Reddit: YouTube removing dislikes from rewind:
Don’t be dumb... youtube caches dislikes so that there main servers don’t get pounded with millions of people doing this. Dislike once and wait maybe a hour and check later, it will be there.
I just disliked, and it was at the same number they’re definitely deleting shit
Reddit: Blizzard somehow just deleted 100k dislikes from their Diablo announcement video
Bottom line: when there's a lot of automated activity, Google comes in every now and then and scrubs the data of anything that looks suspect. Not shockingly (given that 4chan has been heavily involved in the uproar) there are a lot of bots involved in this process.
People are saying maybe they cleared bots but why didn't the likes go down either, at least by SOME amount.
So my questions are:
- Is it true that the number of dislikes on a video can and does decrease en masse over time? (It seems to be true.)
- What might be the cause of this? Can a channel delete dislikes? Does YouTube have an automated algorithm that deletes dislikes that seem to be from bots? Does YouTube remove dislikes if you haven't watched 80% of the video? (Obviously, it's possible that users might decide to all undo their downvotes later, but that seems implausible.)
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Please only answer with actual evidence and not personal theories such as "they do it", "it's an anti-fraud script", "it's eventual consistency", etc. Skeptics is not the place for speculation and personal opinions, but for reporting facts. We delete answers which are not reference based.
– Sklivvz♦
yesterday
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@JanDoggen this is really notable, see: google.com/search?q=diablo+disappearing+dislikes
– Sklivvz♦
yesterday
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Note that there most probably will be no official detailed answer. Google doesn't want you to game the ranking system (which likes and dislikes are part of), so they will be intentionally vague about its inner workings. Much like SO won't tell how exactly the vote reversing script works.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
yesterday
4
It should be noted that Youtube would be reasonably justified in trying to reject likes/dislikes produced by "bots". Whether this is their only motivation, and whether they are doing a reasonable job of it, however, is impossible to judge from this distance.
– Daniel R Hicks
yesterday
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SE does the same thing.
– coteyr
yesterday
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show 5 more comments
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Please only answer with actual evidence and not personal theories such as "they do it", "it's an anti-fraud script", "it's eventual consistency", etc. Skeptics is not the place for speculation and personal opinions, but for reporting facts. We delete answers which are not reference based.
– Sklivvz♦
yesterday
4
@JanDoggen this is really notable, see: google.com/search?q=diablo+disappearing+dislikes
– Sklivvz♦
yesterday
3
Note that there most probably will be no official detailed answer. Google doesn't want you to game the ranking system (which likes and dislikes are part of), so they will be intentionally vague about its inner workings. Much like SO won't tell how exactly the vote reversing script works.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
yesterday
4
It should be noted that Youtube would be reasonably justified in trying to reject likes/dislikes produced by "bots". Whether this is their only motivation, and whether they are doing a reasonable job of it, however, is impossible to judge from this distance.
– Daniel R Hicks
yesterday
2
SE does the same thing.
– coteyr
yesterday
31
31
Please only answer with actual evidence and not personal theories such as "they do it", "it's an anti-fraud script", "it's eventual consistency", etc. Skeptics is not the place for speculation and personal opinions, but for reporting facts. We delete answers which are not reference based.
– Sklivvz♦
yesterday
Please only answer with actual evidence and not personal theories such as "they do it", "it's an anti-fraud script", "it's eventual consistency", etc. Skeptics is not the place for speculation and personal opinions, but for reporting facts. We delete answers which are not reference based.
– Sklivvz♦
yesterday
4
4
@JanDoggen this is really notable, see: google.com/search?q=diablo+disappearing+dislikes
– Sklivvz♦
yesterday
@JanDoggen this is really notable, see: google.com/search?q=diablo+disappearing+dislikes
– Sklivvz♦
yesterday
3
3
Note that there most probably will be no official detailed answer. Google doesn't want you to game the ranking system (which likes and dislikes are part of), so they will be intentionally vague about its inner workings. Much like SO won't tell how exactly the vote reversing script works.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
yesterday
Note that there most probably will be no official detailed answer. Google doesn't want you to game the ranking system (which likes and dislikes are part of), so they will be intentionally vague about its inner workings. Much like SO won't tell how exactly the vote reversing script works.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
yesterday
4
4
It should be noted that Youtube would be reasonably justified in trying to reject likes/dislikes produced by "bots". Whether this is their only motivation, and whether they are doing a reasonable job of it, however, is impossible to judge from this distance.
– Daniel R Hicks
yesterday
It should be noted that Youtube would be reasonably justified in trying to reject likes/dislikes produced by "bots". Whether this is their only motivation, and whether they are doing a reasonable job of it, however, is impossible to judge from this distance.
– Daniel R Hicks
yesterday
2
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SE does the same thing.
– coteyr
yesterday
SE does the same thing.
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YouTube itself says that it can remove dislikes. From Likes and Dislikes report:
You may see like/dislike counts change as some may be marked invalid and periodically removed from the counts. Learn more about our Likes Policy. [outdated link]
Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat.
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Yes, they do. They will also delete likes, as well.
However, the comments quoted and the general complaints on that video about dislikes going away are based on the claim that Gillette is either paying YouTube to delete dislikes, or that Gillette is doing it, itself.
One reason why YouTube deletes some likes and dislikes is because people often use likes, dislikes, followers, etc on social media to boost their own agendas or careers, so faking or manipulating popularity or unpopularity is pretty common.
To this end, there are business set up with individuals manning banks of devices so a person can deliver hundreds of "clicks" for a paying customer, low tech, or can set up automated programs/bots to simulate activity from different users, for the same result.
To give you a general definition of clicks farms, they can be defined as:
An undercover operation in which individuals fraudulently interact with a website to artificially boost the status of a client’s website, product or service.
This basically means that somewhere in the world there are people that work behind closed doors fraudulently promoting other peoples products and services for a fee. Since the definition is fairly broad, this means that the fraudulent activity can take place on almost any platform although the most popular ones are Facebook and Instagram. It doesn’t matter if the group is selling Facebook likes of Twitter followers, they’re all classed as click farms.
PPC Protect: What is a click farm
It is in the interest of social media platforms to identify this kind of fraudulent manipulation to maintain their own integrity. So in this case, where people who don't like Gillette's ads are seeing nefarious manipulation by either Gillette, or YouTube as a paid proxy for Gillette, really it's the opposite - they are rooting out and screening nefarious and fraudulent activity that they identify.
As noted in another answer -
You may see like/dislike counts change as some may be marked invalid and periodically removed from the counts. Learn more about our Likes Policy.
YouTube: Likes and Dislikes report
Clicking on the "likes policies" hyperlink takes you to -
Artificial Traffic Spam
Anything that artificially increases the number of views, likes, comments, or other metric either through the use of automatic systems or by serving up videos to unsuspecting viewers, is against our terms. Additionally, content that solely exists to incentivize viewers for engagement (views, likes, comments, etc) is prohibited.
YouTube:Spam, deceptive practices and scams policies
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@Laurel - Thought it was covered in the other answer, but, you're right, it needs to be here.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
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I definitely like how this covers the why? aspect of the like/dislike deletion. The quotes/claims in the question make it seem as though it would be YouTube doing it because of it's own agenda, but it really is a struggle to combat "fake" users trying to influence the system.
– Broots Waymb
yesterday
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@Fermiparadox - In this case, more of the ones being removed as fraudulent are the dislikes, but, clearly, I'm not claiming that the dislikes, in and of themselves, are necessarily bogus. There's still over 800K of them and they nearly double the positives, and, in terms of immediate viral reaction, I'd venture to guess that a broad negative response is probably going to show up on a YouTube more quickly than a general positive one. If the people were complaining that "likes" were disappearing and trying to blame Schick or Bic for it, I'd have made the same statement in the same language.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
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It is only the practice of hiring click farms that I'm referring to as "nefarious and fraudulent," and I'd venture to guess that usually more often associated with inflating an unwarranted "like" count for a person or product.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
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@Fermiparadox PoloHoleSet says in their answer, correctly according to their sources, that YT removes "nefarious and fraudulent" likes/dislikes. PoloHoleSet remains neutral and does not draw any conclusions. They do not say that is the only reason, but that is not what the question asked anyway. "Do they?" > "Yes, they have said to do so for this reason". Question answered, sources provided. Asking PoloHoleSet to speculate on the reason does not seem like the spirit of this SE.
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It's been previously documented that "glitches" can also alter the like/dislike ratio on a large scale, for example, a Justin Bieber video (including, bizarrely, adding dislikes to likes), so it's entirely possible:
https://heavy.com/social/2013/05/youtube-glitch-removes-dislikes-adds-likes/
Given YouTube control the stats behind the scenes, they can hypothetically do anything on likes/dislikes (similar to the 301 views cap). As for why it might be occurring, one can only speculate just short of an internal leak.
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What is the "301 views cap"?
– MJ713
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@MJ713 It used to be that a video on YouTube would get stuck at 301 views no matter how many there were for about a day or so. It had something to do with how often they polled it or something. I think they fixed it when they changed the maximum number of views before Gagnam Style broke it.
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YouTube itself says that it can remove dislikes. From Likes and Dislikes report:
You may see like/dislike counts change as some may be marked invalid and periodically removed from the counts. Learn more about our Likes Policy. [outdated link]
Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat.
– Oddthinking♦
yesterday
add a comment |
YouTube itself says that it can remove dislikes. From Likes and Dislikes report:
You may see like/dislike counts change as some may be marked invalid and periodically removed from the counts. Learn more about our Likes Policy. [outdated link]
Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat.
– Oddthinking♦
yesterday
add a comment |
YouTube itself says that it can remove dislikes. From Likes and Dislikes report:
You may see like/dislike counts change as some may be marked invalid and periodically removed from the counts. Learn more about our Likes Policy. [outdated link]
YouTube itself says that it can remove dislikes. From Likes and Dislikes report:
You may see like/dislike counts change as some may be marked invalid and periodically removed from the counts. Learn more about our Likes Policy. [outdated link]
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Yes, they do. They will also delete likes, as well.
However, the comments quoted and the general complaints on that video about dislikes going away are based on the claim that Gillette is either paying YouTube to delete dislikes, or that Gillette is doing it, itself.
One reason why YouTube deletes some likes and dislikes is because people often use likes, dislikes, followers, etc on social media to boost their own agendas or careers, so faking or manipulating popularity or unpopularity is pretty common.
To this end, there are business set up with individuals manning banks of devices so a person can deliver hundreds of "clicks" for a paying customer, low tech, or can set up automated programs/bots to simulate activity from different users, for the same result.
To give you a general definition of clicks farms, they can be defined as:
An undercover operation in which individuals fraudulently interact with a website to artificially boost the status of a client’s website, product or service.
This basically means that somewhere in the world there are people that work behind closed doors fraudulently promoting other peoples products and services for a fee. Since the definition is fairly broad, this means that the fraudulent activity can take place on almost any platform although the most popular ones are Facebook and Instagram. It doesn’t matter if the group is selling Facebook likes of Twitter followers, they’re all classed as click farms.
PPC Protect: What is a click farm
It is in the interest of social media platforms to identify this kind of fraudulent manipulation to maintain their own integrity. So in this case, where people who don't like Gillette's ads are seeing nefarious manipulation by either Gillette, or YouTube as a paid proxy for Gillette, really it's the opposite - they are rooting out and screening nefarious and fraudulent activity that they identify.
As noted in another answer -
You may see like/dislike counts change as some may be marked invalid and periodically removed from the counts. Learn more about our Likes Policy.
YouTube: Likes and Dislikes report
Clicking on the "likes policies" hyperlink takes you to -
Artificial Traffic Spam
Anything that artificially increases the number of views, likes, comments, or other metric either through the use of automatic systems or by serving up videos to unsuspecting viewers, is against our terms. Additionally, content that solely exists to incentivize viewers for engagement (views, likes, comments, etc) is prohibited.
YouTube:Spam, deceptive practices and scams policies
3
@Laurel - Thought it was covered in the other answer, but, you're right, it needs to be here.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
1
I definitely like how this covers the why? aspect of the like/dislike deletion. The quotes/claims in the question make it seem as though it would be YouTube doing it because of it's own agenda, but it really is a struggle to combat "fake" users trying to influence the system.
– Broots Waymb
yesterday
4
@Fermiparadox - In this case, more of the ones being removed as fraudulent are the dislikes, but, clearly, I'm not claiming that the dislikes, in and of themselves, are necessarily bogus. There's still over 800K of them and they nearly double the positives, and, in terms of immediate viral reaction, I'd venture to guess that a broad negative response is probably going to show up on a YouTube more quickly than a general positive one. If the people were complaining that "likes" were disappearing and trying to blame Schick or Bic for it, I'd have made the same statement in the same language.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
6
It is only the practice of hiring click farms that I'm referring to as "nefarious and fraudulent," and I'd venture to guess that usually more often associated with inflating an unwarranted "like" count for a person or product.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
2
@Fermiparadox PoloHoleSet says in their answer, correctly according to their sources, that YT removes "nefarious and fraudulent" likes/dislikes. PoloHoleSet remains neutral and does not draw any conclusions. They do not say that is the only reason, but that is not what the question asked anyway. "Do they?" > "Yes, they have said to do so for this reason". Question answered, sources provided. Asking PoloHoleSet to speculate on the reason does not seem like the spirit of this SE.
– Belle-Sophie
14 hours ago
|
show 8 more comments
Yes, they do. They will also delete likes, as well.
However, the comments quoted and the general complaints on that video about dislikes going away are based on the claim that Gillette is either paying YouTube to delete dislikes, or that Gillette is doing it, itself.
One reason why YouTube deletes some likes and dislikes is because people often use likes, dislikes, followers, etc on social media to boost their own agendas or careers, so faking or manipulating popularity or unpopularity is pretty common.
To this end, there are business set up with individuals manning banks of devices so a person can deliver hundreds of "clicks" for a paying customer, low tech, or can set up automated programs/bots to simulate activity from different users, for the same result.
To give you a general definition of clicks farms, they can be defined as:
An undercover operation in which individuals fraudulently interact with a website to artificially boost the status of a client’s website, product or service.
This basically means that somewhere in the world there are people that work behind closed doors fraudulently promoting other peoples products and services for a fee. Since the definition is fairly broad, this means that the fraudulent activity can take place on almost any platform although the most popular ones are Facebook and Instagram. It doesn’t matter if the group is selling Facebook likes of Twitter followers, they’re all classed as click farms.
PPC Protect: What is a click farm
It is in the interest of social media platforms to identify this kind of fraudulent manipulation to maintain their own integrity. So in this case, where people who don't like Gillette's ads are seeing nefarious manipulation by either Gillette, or YouTube as a paid proxy for Gillette, really it's the opposite - they are rooting out and screening nefarious and fraudulent activity that they identify.
As noted in another answer -
You may see like/dislike counts change as some may be marked invalid and periodically removed from the counts. Learn more about our Likes Policy.
YouTube: Likes and Dislikes report
Clicking on the "likes policies" hyperlink takes you to -
Artificial Traffic Spam
Anything that artificially increases the number of views, likes, comments, or other metric either through the use of automatic systems or by serving up videos to unsuspecting viewers, is against our terms. Additionally, content that solely exists to incentivize viewers for engagement (views, likes, comments, etc) is prohibited.
YouTube:Spam, deceptive practices and scams policies
3
@Laurel - Thought it was covered in the other answer, but, you're right, it needs to be here.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
1
I definitely like how this covers the why? aspect of the like/dislike deletion. The quotes/claims in the question make it seem as though it would be YouTube doing it because of it's own agenda, but it really is a struggle to combat "fake" users trying to influence the system.
– Broots Waymb
yesterday
4
@Fermiparadox - In this case, more of the ones being removed as fraudulent are the dislikes, but, clearly, I'm not claiming that the dislikes, in and of themselves, are necessarily bogus. There's still over 800K of them and they nearly double the positives, and, in terms of immediate viral reaction, I'd venture to guess that a broad negative response is probably going to show up on a YouTube more quickly than a general positive one. If the people were complaining that "likes" were disappearing and trying to blame Schick or Bic for it, I'd have made the same statement in the same language.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
6
It is only the practice of hiring click farms that I'm referring to as "nefarious and fraudulent," and I'd venture to guess that usually more often associated with inflating an unwarranted "like" count for a person or product.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
2
@Fermiparadox PoloHoleSet says in their answer, correctly according to their sources, that YT removes "nefarious and fraudulent" likes/dislikes. PoloHoleSet remains neutral and does not draw any conclusions. They do not say that is the only reason, but that is not what the question asked anyway. "Do they?" > "Yes, they have said to do so for this reason". Question answered, sources provided. Asking PoloHoleSet to speculate on the reason does not seem like the spirit of this SE.
– Belle-Sophie
14 hours ago
|
show 8 more comments
Yes, they do. They will also delete likes, as well.
However, the comments quoted and the general complaints on that video about dislikes going away are based on the claim that Gillette is either paying YouTube to delete dislikes, or that Gillette is doing it, itself.
One reason why YouTube deletes some likes and dislikes is because people often use likes, dislikes, followers, etc on social media to boost their own agendas or careers, so faking or manipulating popularity or unpopularity is pretty common.
To this end, there are business set up with individuals manning banks of devices so a person can deliver hundreds of "clicks" for a paying customer, low tech, or can set up automated programs/bots to simulate activity from different users, for the same result.
To give you a general definition of clicks farms, they can be defined as:
An undercover operation in which individuals fraudulently interact with a website to artificially boost the status of a client’s website, product or service.
This basically means that somewhere in the world there are people that work behind closed doors fraudulently promoting other peoples products and services for a fee. Since the definition is fairly broad, this means that the fraudulent activity can take place on almost any platform although the most popular ones are Facebook and Instagram. It doesn’t matter if the group is selling Facebook likes of Twitter followers, they’re all classed as click farms.
PPC Protect: What is a click farm
It is in the interest of social media platforms to identify this kind of fraudulent manipulation to maintain their own integrity. So in this case, where people who don't like Gillette's ads are seeing nefarious manipulation by either Gillette, or YouTube as a paid proxy for Gillette, really it's the opposite - they are rooting out and screening nefarious and fraudulent activity that they identify.
As noted in another answer -
You may see like/dislike counts change as some may be marked invalid and periodically removed from the counts. Learn more about our Likes Policy.
YouTube: Likes and Dislikes report
Clicking on the "likes policies" hyperlink takes you to -
Artificial Traffic Spam
Anything that artificially increases the number of views, likes, comments, or other metric either through the use of automatic systems or by serving up videos to unsuspecting viewers, is against our terms. Additionally, content that solely exists to incentivize viewers for engagement (views, likes, comments, etc) is prohibited.
YouTube:Spam, deceptive practices and scams policies
Yes, they do. They will also delete likes, as well.
However, the comments quoted and the general complaints on that video about dislikes going away are based on the claim that Gillette is either paying YouTube to delete dislikes, or that Gillette is doing it, itself.
One reason why YouTube deletes some likes and dislikes is because people often use likes, dislikes, followers, etc on social media to boost their own agendas or careers, so faking or manipulating popularity or unpopularity is pretty common.
To this end, there are business set up with individuals manning banks of devices so a person can deliver hundreds of "clicks" for a paying customer, low tech, or can set up automated programs/bots to simulate activity from different users, for the same result.
To give you a general definition of clicks farms, they can be defined as:
An undercover operation in which individuals fraudulently interact with a website to artificially boost the status of a client’s website, product or service.
This basically means that somewhere in the world there are people that work behind closed doors fraudulently promoting other peoples products and services for a fee. Since the definition is fairly broad, this means that the fraudulent activity can take place on almost any platform although the most popular ones are Facebook and Instagram. It doesn’t matter if the group is selling Facebook likes of Twitter followers, they’re all classed as click farms.
PPC Protect: What is a click farm
It is in the interest of social media platforms to identify this kind of fraudulent manipulation to maintain their own integrity. So in this case, where people who don't like Gillette's ads are seeing nefarious manipulation by either Gillette, or YouTube as a paid proxy for Gillette, really it's the opposite - they are rooting out and screening nefarious and fraudulent activity that they identify.
As noted in another answer -
You may see like/dislike counts change as some may be marked invalid and periodically removed from the counts. Learn more about our Likes Policy.
YouTube: Likes and Dislikes report
Clicking on the "likes policies" hyperlink takes you to -
Artificial Traffic Spam
Anything that artificially increases the number of views, likes, comments, or other metric either through the use of automatic systems or by serving up videos to unsuspecting viewers, is against our terms. Additionally, content that solely exists to incentivize viewers for engagement (views, likes, comments, etc) is prohibited.
YouTube:Spam, deceptive practices and scams policies
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@Laurel - Thought it was covered in the other answer, but, you're right, it needs to be here.
– PoloHoleSet
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I definitely like how this covers the why? aspect of the like/dislike deletion. The quotes/claims in the question make it seem as though it would be YouTube doing it because of it's own agenda, but it really is a struggle to combat "fake" users trying to influence the system.
– Broots Waymb
yesterday
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@Fermiparadox - In this case, more of the ones being removed as fraudulent are the dislikes, but, clearly, I'm not claiming that the dislikes, in and of themselves, are necessarily bogus. There's still over 800K of them and they nearly double the positives, and, in terms of immediate viral reaction, I'd venture to guess that a broad negative response is probably going to show up on a YouTube more quickly than a general positive one. If the people were complaining that "likes" were disappearing and trying to blame Schick or Bic for it, I'd have made the same statement in the same language.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
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It is only the practice of hiring click farms that I'm referring to as "nefarious and fraudulent," and I'd venture to guess that usually more often associated with inflating an unwarranted "like" count for a person or product.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
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@Fermiparadox PoloHoleSet says in their answer, correctly according to their sources, that YT removes "nefarious and fraudulent" likes/dislikes. PoloHoleSet remains neutral and does not draw any conclusions. They do not say that is the only reason, but that is not what the question asked anyway. "Do they?" > "Yes, they have said to do so for this reason". Question answered, sources provided. Asking PoloHoleSet to speculate on the reason does not seem like the spirit of this SE.
– Belle-Sophie
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@Laurel - Thought it was covered in the other answer, but, you're right, it needs to be here.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
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I definitely like how this covers the why? aspect of the like/dislike deletion. The quotes/claims in the question make it seem as though it would be YouTube doing it because of it's own agenda, but it really is a struggle to combat "fake" users trying to influence the system.
– Broots Waymb
yesterday
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@Fermiparadox - In this case, more of the ones being removed as fraudulent are the dislikes, but, clearly, I'm not claiming that the dislikes, in and of themselves, are necessarily bogus. There's still over 800K of them and they nearly double the positives, and, in terms of immediate viral reaction, I'd venture to guess that a broad negative response is probably going to show up on a YouTube more quickly than a general positive one. If the people were complaining that "likes" were disappearing and trying to blame Schick or Bic for it, I'd have made the same statement in the same language.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
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It is only the practice of hiring click farms that I'm referring to as "nefarious and fraudulent," and I'd venture to guess that usually more often associated with inflating an unwarranted "like" count for a person or product.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
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@Fermiparadox PoloHoleSet says in their answer, correctly according to their sources, that YT removes "nefarious and fraudulent" likes/dislikes. PoloHoleSet remains neutral and does not draw any conclusions. They do not say that is the only reason, but that is not what the question asked anyway. "Do they?" > "Yes, they have said to do so for this reason". Question answered, sources provided. Asking PoloHoleSet to speculate on the reason does not seem like the spirit of this SE.
– Belle-Sophie
14 hours ago
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@Laurel - Thought it was covered in the other answer, but, you're right, it needs to be here.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
@Laurel - Thought it was covered in the other answer, but, you're right, it needs to be here.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
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I definitely like how this covers the why? aspect of the like/dislike deletion. The quotes/claims in the question make it seem as though it would be YouTube doing it because of it's own agenda, but it really is a struggle to combat "fake" users trying to influence the system.
– Broots Waymb
yesterday
I definitely like how this covers the why? aspect of the like/dislike deletion. The quotes/claims in the question make it seem as though it would be YouTube doing it because of it's own agenda, but it really is a struggle to combat "fake" users trying to influence the system.
– Broots Waymb
yesterday
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@Fermiparadox - In this case, more of the ones being removed as fraudulent are the dislikes, but, clearly, I'm not claiming that the dislikes, in and of themselves, are necessarily bogus. There's still over 800K of them and they nearly double the positives, and, in terms of immediate viral reaction, I'd venture to guess that a broad negative response is probably going to show up on a YouTube more quickly than a general positive one. If the people were complaining that "likes" were disappearing and trying to blame Schick or Bic for it, I'd have made the same statement in the same language.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
@Fermiparadox - In this case, more of the ones being removed as fraudulent are the dislikes, but, clearly, I'm not claiming that the dislikes, in and of themselves, are necessarily bogus. There's still over 800K of them and they nearly double the positives, and, in terms of immediate viral reaction, I'd venture to guess that a broad negative response is probably going to show up on a YouTube more quickly than a general positive one. If the people were complaining that "likes" were disappearing and trying to blame Schick or Bic for it, I'd have made the same statement in the same language.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
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It is only the practice of hiring click farms that I'm referring to as "nefarious and fraudulent," and I'd venture to guess that usually more often associated with inflating an unwarranted "like" count for a person or product.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
It is only the practice of hiring click farms that I'm referring to as "nefarious and fraudulent," and I'd venture to guess that usually more often associated with inflating an unwarranted "like" count for a person or product.
– PoloHoleSet
yesterday
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@Fermiparadox PoloHoleSet says in their answer, correctly according to their sources, that YT removes "nefarious and fraudulent" likes/dislikes. PoloHoleSet remains neutral and does not draw any conclusions. They do not say that is the only reason, but that is not what the question asked anyway. "Do they?" > "Yes, they have said to do so for this reason". Question answered, sources provided. Asking PoloHoleSet to speculate on the reason does not seem like the spirit of this SE.
– Belle-Sophie
14 hours ago
@Fermiparadox PoloHoleSet says in their answer, correctly according to their sources, that YT removes "nefarious and fraudulent" likes/dislikes. PoloHoleSet remains neutral and does not draw any conclusions. They do not say that is the only reason, but that is not what the question asked anyway. "Do they?" > "Yes, they have said to do so for this reason". Question answered, sources provided. Asking PoloHoleSet to speculate on the reason does not seem like the spirit of this SE.
– Belle-Sophie
14 hours ago
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It's been previously documented that "glitches" can also alter the like/dislike ratio on a large scale, for example, a Justin Bieber video (including, bizarrely, adding dislikes to likes), so it's entirely possible:
https://heavy.com/social/2013/05/youtube-glitch-removes-dislikes-adds-likes/
Given YouTube control the stats behind the scenes, they can hypothetically do anything on likes/dislikes (similar to the 301 views cap). As for why it might be occurring, one can only speculate just short of an internal leak.
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What is the "301 views cap"?
– MJ713
2 hours ago
@MJ713 It used to be that a video on YouTube would get stuck at 301 views no matter how many there were for about a day or so. It had something to do with how often they polled it or something. I think they fixed it when they changed the maximum number of views before Gagnam Style broke it.
– Azor Ahai
1 hour ago
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It's been previously documented that "glitches" can also alter the like/dislike ratio on a large scale, for example, a Justin Bieber video (including, bizarrely, adding dislikes to likes), so it's entirely possible:
https://heavy.com/social/2013/05/youtube-glitch-removes-dislikes-adds-likes/
Given YouTube control the stats behind the scenes, they can hypothetically do anything on likes/dislikes (similar to the 301 views cap). As for why it might be occurring, one can only speculate just short of an internal leak.
New contributor
What is the "301 views cap"?
– MJ713
2 hours ago
@MJ713 It used to be that a video on YouTube would get stuck at 301 views no matter how many there were for about a day or so. It had something to do with how often they polled it or something. I think they fixed it when they changed the maximum number of views before Gagnam Style broke it.
– Azor Ahai
1 hour ago
add a comment |
It's been previously documented that "glitches" can also alter the like/dislike ratio on a large scale, for example, a Justin Bieber video (including, bizarrely, adding dislikes to likes), so it's entirely possible:
https://heavy.com/social/2013/05/youtube-glitch-removes-dislikes-adds-likes/
Given YouTube control the stats behind the scenes, they can hypothetically do anything on likes/dislikes (similar to the 301 views cap). As for why it might be occurring, one can only speculate just short of an internal leak.
New contributor
It's been previously documented that "glitches" can also alter the like/dislike ratio on a large scale, for example, a Justin Bieber video (including, bizarrely, adding dislikes to likes), so it's entirely possible:
https://heavy.com/social/2013/05/youtube-glitch-removes-dislikes-adds-likes/
Given YouTube control the stats behind the scenes, they can hypothetically do anything on likes/dislikes (similar to the 301 views cap). As for why it might be occurring, one can only speculate just short of an internal leak.
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What is the "301 views cap"?
– MJ713
2 hours ago
@MJ713 It used to be that a video on YouTube would get stuck at 301 views no matter how many there were for about a day or so. It had something to do with how often they polled it or something. I think they fixed it when they changed the maximum number of views before Gagnam Style broke it.
– Azor Ahai
1 hour ago
add a comment |
What is the "301 views cap"?
– MJ713
2 hours ago
@MJ713 It used to be that a video on YouTube would get stuck at 301 views no matter how many there were for about a day or so. It had something to do with how often they polled it or something. I think they fixed it when they changed the maximum number of views before Gagnam Style broke it.
– Azor Ahai
1 hour ago
What is the "301 views cap"?
– MJ713
2 hours ago
What is the "301 views cap"?
– MJ713
2 hours ago
@MJ713 It used to be that a video on YouTube would get stuck at 301 views no matter how many there were for about a day or so. It had something to do with how often they polled it or something. I think they fixed it when they changed the maximum number of views before Gagnam Style broke it.
– Azor Ahai
1 hour ago
@MJ713 It used to be that a video on YouTube would get stuck at 301 views no matter how many there were for about a day or so. It had something to do with how often they polled it or something. I think they fixed it when they changed the maximum number of views before Gagnam Style broke it.
– Azor Ahai
1 hour ago
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Please only answer with actual evidence and not personal theories such as "they do it", "it's an anti-fraud script", "it's eventual consistency", etc. Skeptics is not the place for speculation and personal opinions, but for reporting facts. We delete answers which are not reference based.
– Sklivvz♦
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@JanDoggen this is really notable, see: google.com/search?q=diablo+disappearing+dislikes
– Sklivvz♦
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Note that there most probably will be no official detailed answer. Google doesn't want you to game the ranking system (which likes and dislikes are part of), so they will be intentionally vague about its inner workings. Much like SO won't tell how exactly the vote reversing script works.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
yesterday
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It should be noted that Youtube would be reasonably justified in trying to reject likes/dislikes produced by "bots". Whether this is their only motivation, and whether they are doing a reasonable job of it, however, is impossible to judge from this distance.
– Daniel R Hicks
yesterday
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SE does the same thing.
– coteyr
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