In SVM Algorithm, why vector w is orthogonal to the separating hyperplane?












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I am a beginner on Machine Learning.
In SVM, the separating hyperplane is defined as $y = w^T x + b$.
Why we say vector $w$ orthogonal to the separating hyperplane?










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    An answer to a similar question (for neural networks) is here.
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    @bogatron - I agree with you completely. But my ones just a SVM specific answer.
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    Except it isn't. Your answer is correct but there is nothing about it that is specific to SVMs (nor should there be). $w^{T}x=b$ is simply a vector equation that defines a hyperplane.
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I am a beginner on Machine Learning.
In SVM, the separating hyperplane is defined as $y = w^T x + b$.
Why we say vector $w$ orthogonal to the separating hyperplane?










share|improve this question











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    $begingroup$
    An answer to a similar question (for neural networks) is here.
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    – bogatron
    Jun 9 '15 at 16:39










  • $begingroup$
    @bogatron - I agree with you completely. But my ones just a SVM specific answer.
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    – untitledprogrammer
    Jun 10 '15 at 19:43






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    Except it isn't. Your answer is correct but there is nothing about it that is specific to SVMs (nor should there be). $w^{T}x=b$ is simply a vector equation that defines a hyperplane.
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    – bogatron
    Jun 10 '15 at 22:01














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I am a beginner on Machine Learning.
In SVM, the separating hyperplane is defined as $y = w^T x + b$.
Why we say vector $w$ orthogonal to the separating hyperplane?










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I am a beginner on Machine Learning.
In SVM, the separating hyperplane is defined as $y = w^T x + b$.
Why we say vector $w$ orthogonal to the separating hyperplane?







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    An answer to a similar question (for neural networks) is here.
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    Jun 9 '15 at 16:39










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    @bogatron - I agree with you completely. But my ones just a SVM specific answer.
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    – untitledprogrammer
    Jun 10 '15 at 19:43






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    $begingroup$
    Except it isn't. Your answer is correct but there is nothing about it that is specific to SVMs (nor should there be). $w^{T}x=b$ is simply a vector equation that defines a hyperplane.
    $endgroup$
    – bogatron
    Jun 10 '15 at 22:01














  • 2




    $begingroup$
    An answer to a similar question (for neural networks) is here.
    $endgroup$
    – bogatron
    Jun 9 '15 at 16:39










  • $begingroup$
    @bogatron - I agree with you completely. But my ones just a SVM specific answer.
    $endgroup$
    – untitledprogrammer
    Jun 10 '15 at 19:43






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Except it isn't. Your answer is correct but there is nothing about it that is specific to SVMs (nor should there be). $w^{T}x=b$ is simply a vector equation that defines a hyperplane.
    $endgroup$
    – bogatron
    Jun 10 '15 at 22:01








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$begingroup$
An answer to a similar question (for neural networks) is here.
$endgroup$
– bogatron
Jun 9 '15 at 16:39




$begingroup$
An answer to a similar question (for neural networks) is here.
$endgroup$
– bogatron
Jun 9 '15 at 16:39












$begingroup$
@bogatron - I agree with you completely. But my ones just a SVM specific answer.
$endgroup$
– untitledprogrammer
Jun 10 '15 at 19:43




$begingroup$
@bogatron - I agree with you completely. But my ones just a SVM specific answer.
$endgroup$
– untitledprogrammer
Jun 10 '15 at 19:43




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$begingroup$
Except it isn't. Your answer is correct but there is nothing about it that is specific to SVMs (nor should there be). $w^{T}x=b$ is simply a vector equation that defines a hyperplane.
$endgroup$
– bogatron
Jun 10 '15 at 22:01




$begingroup$
Except it isn't. Your answer is correct but there is nothing about it that is specific to SVMs (nor should there be). $w^{T}x=b$ is simply a vector equation that defines a hyperplane.
$endgroup$
– bogatron
Jun 10 '15 at 22:01










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Geometrically, the vector w is directed orthogonal to the line defined by $w^{T} x = b$. This can be understood as follows:



First take $b = 0$. Now it is clear that all vectors, $x$, with vanishing inner product with $w$ satisfy this equation, i.e. all vectors orthogonal to w satisfy this equation.



Now translate the hyperplane away from the origin over a vector a. The equation for the plane now becomes: $(x − a)^{T} w = 0$, i.e. we find that for the offset $b = a^{T} w$, which is the projection of the vector $a$ onto the vector $w$.



Without loss of generality we may thus choose a perpendicular to the plane, in which case the length $vertvert a vertvert = vert b vert /vertvert wvertvert$ which represents the shortest, orthogonal distance between the origin and the hyperplane.



Hence the vector $w$ is said to be orthogonal to the separating hyperplane.






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    The reason why $w$ is normal to the hyper-plane is because we define it to be that way:



    Suppose that we have a (hyper)plane in 3d space. Let $P_0$ be a point on this plane i.e. $P_0 = x_0, y_0, z_0$. Therefore the vector from the origin $(0,0,0)$ to this point is just $<x_0,y_0,z_0>$. Suppose that we have an arbitrary point $P (x,y,z)$ on the plane. The vector joining $P$ and $P_0$ is then given by:
    $$ vec{P} - vec{P_0} = <x-x_0, y-y_0, z-z_0>$$
    Note that this vector lies in the plane.



    Now let $hat{n}$ be the normal (orthogonal) vector to the plane. Therefore:
    $$ hat{n} bullet (vec{P}-vec{P_0}) = 0$$
    Therefore:
    $$hat{n} bullet vec{P}- hat{n} bullet vec{P_0} = 0$$
    Note that $-hat{n} bullet vec{P_0}$ is just a number and is equal to $b$ in our case, whereas $hat{n}$ is just $w$ and $vec{P}$ is $x$. So by definition, $w$ is orthogonal to the hyperplane.






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      Using the algebraic definition of a vector being orthogonal to a hyperplane:



      $forall x_1, x_2$ on the separating hyperplane,



      $$ w^T(x_1-x_2)=(w^Tx_1 + b)-(w^Tx_2 + b)=0-0=0 smallBox.$$






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        Let the decision boundary be defined as $w^Tx + b = 0$. Consider the points $x_a$ and $x_b$, which lie on the decision boundary. This gives us two equations:



        begin{equation}
        w^Tx_a + b = 0 \
        w^Tx_b + b = 0
        end{equation}



        Subtracting these two equations gives us $w^T.(x_a - x_b) = 0$. Note that the vector $x_a - x_b$ lies on the decision boundary, and it is directed from $x_b$ to $x_a$. Since the dot product $w^T.(x_a - x_b)$ is zero, $w^T$ must be orthogonal to $x_a - x_b$, and in turn, to the decision boundary.






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          Geometrically, the vector w is directed orthogonal to the line defined by $w^{T} x = b$. This can be understood as follows:



          First take $b = 0$. Now it is clear that all vectors, $x$, with vanishing inner product with $w$ satisfy this equation, i.e. all vectors orthogonal to w satisfy this equation.



          Now translate the hyperplane away from the origin over a vector a. The equation for the plane now becomes: $(x − a)^{T} w = 0$, i.e. we find that for the offset $b = a^{T} w$, which is the projection of the vector $a$ onto the vector $w$.



          Without loss of generality we may thus choose a perpendicular to the plane, in which case the length $vertvert a vertvert = vert b vert /vertvert wvertvert$ which represents the shortest, orthogonal distance between the origin and the hyperplane.



          Hence the vector $w$ is said to be orthogonal to the separating hyperplane.






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            Geometrically, the vector w is directed orthogonal to the line defined by $w^{T} x = b$. This can be understood as follows:



            First take $b = 0$. Now it is clear that all vectors, $x$, with vanishing inner product with $w$ satisfy this equation, i.e. all vectors orthogonal to w satisfy this equation.



            Now translate the hyperplane away from the origin over a vector a. The equation for the plane now becomes: $(x − a)^{T} w = 0$, i.e. we find that for the offset $b = a^{T} w$, which is the projection of the vector $a$ onto the vector $w$.



            Without loss of generality we may thus choose a perpendicular to the plane, in which case the length $vertvert a vertvert = vert b vert /vertvert wvertvert$ which represents the shortest, orthogonal distance between the origin and the hyperplane.



            Hence the vector $w$ is said to be orthogonal to the separating hyperplane.






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              Geometrically, the vector w is directed orthogonal to the line defined by $w^{T} x = b$. This can be understood as follows:



              First take $b = 0$. Now it is clear that all vectors, $x$, with vanishing inner product with $w$ satisfy this equation, i.e. all vectors orthogonal to w satisfy this equation.



              Now translate the hyperplane away from the origin over a vector a. The equation for the plane now becomes: $(x − a)^{T} w = 0$, i.e. we find that for the offset $b = a^{T} w$, which is the projection of the vector $a$ onto the vector $w$.



              Without loss of generality we may thus choose a perpendicular to the plane, in which case the length $vertvert a vertvert = vert b vert /vertvert wvertvert$ which represents the shortest, orthogonal distance between the origin and the hyperplane.



              Hence the vector $w$ is said to be orthogonal to the separating hyperplane.






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              Geometrically, the vector w is directed orthogonal to the line defined by $w^{T} x = b$. This can be understood as follows:



              First take $b = 0$. Now it is clear that all vectors, $x$, with vanishing inner product with $w$ satisfy this equation, i.e. all vectors orthogonal to w satisfy this equation.



              Now translate the hyperplane away from the origin over a vector a. The equation for the plane now becomes: $(x − a)^{T} w = 0$, i.e. we find that for the offset $b = a^{T} w$, which is the projection of the vector $a$ onto the vector $w$.



              Without loss of generality we may thus choose a perpendicular to the plane, in which case the length $vertvert a vertvert = vert b vert /vertvert wvertvert$ which represents the shortest, orthogonal distance between the origin and the hyperplane.



              Hence the vector $w$ is said to be orthogonal to the separating hyperplane.







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                  The reason why $w$ is normal to the hyper-plane is because we define it to be that way:



                  Suppose that we have a (hyper)plane in 3d space. Let $P_0$ be a point on this plane i.e. $P_0 = x_0, y_0, z_0$. Therefore the vector from the origin $(0,0,0)$ to this point is just $<x_0,y_0,z_0>$. Suppose that we have an arbitrary point $P (x,y,z)$ on the plane. The vector joining $P$ and $P_0$ is then given by:
                  $$ vec{P} - vec{P_0} = <x-x_0, y-y_0, z-z_0>$$
                  Note that this vector lies in the plane.



                  Now let $hat{n}$ be the normal (orthogonal) vector to the plane. Therefore:
                  $$ hat{n} bullet (vec{P}-vec{P_0}) = 0$$
                  Therefore:
                  $$hat{n} bullet vec{P}- hat{n} bullet vec{P_0} = 0$$
                  Note that $-hat{n} bullet vec{P_0}$ is just a number and is equal to $b$ in our case, whereas $hat{n}$ is just $w$ and $vec{P}$ is $x$. So by definition, $w$ is orthogonal to the hyperplane.






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                    The reason why $w$ is normal to the hyper-plane is because we define it to be that way:



                    Suppose that we have a (hyper)plane in 3d space. Let $P_0$ be a point on this plane i.e. $P_0 = x_0, y_0, z_0$. Therefore the vector from the origin $(0,0,0)$ to this point is just $<x_0,y_0,z_0>$. Suppose that we have an arbitrary point $P (x,y,z)$ on the plane. The vector joining $P$ and $P_0$ is then given by:
                    $$ vec{P} - vec{P_0} = <x-x_0, y-y_0, z-z_0>$$
                    Note that this vector lies in the plane.



                    Now let $hat{n}$ be the normal (orthogonal) vector to the plane. Therefore:
                    $$ hat{n} bullet (vec{P}-vec{P_0}) = 0$$
                    Therefore:
                    $$hat{n} bullet vec{P}- hat{n} bullet vec{P_0} = 0$$
                    Note that $-hat{n} bullet vec{P_0}$ is just a number and is equal to $b$ in our case, whereas $hat{n}$ is just $w$ and $vec{P}$ is $x$. So by definition, $w$ is orthogonal to the hyperplane.






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                      The reason why $w$ is normal to the hyper-plane is because we define it to be that way:



                      Suppose that we have a (hyper)plane in 3d space. Let $P_0$ be a point on this plane i.e. $P_0 = x_0, y_0, z_0$. Therefore the vector from the origin $(0,0,0)$ to this point is just $<x_0,y_0,z_0>$. Suppose that we have an arbitrary point $P (x,y,z)$ on the plane. The vector joining $P$ and $P_0$ is then given by:
                      $$ vec{P} - vec{P_0} = <x-x_0, y-y_0, z-z_0>$$
                      Note that this vector lies in the plane.



                      Now let $hat{n}$ be the normal (orthogonal) vector to the plane. Therefore:
                      $$ hat{n} bullet (vec{P}-vec{P_0}) = 0$$
                      Therefore:
                      $$hat{n} bullet vec{P}- hat{n} bullet vec{P_0} = 0$$
                      Note that $-hat{n} bullet vec{P_0}$ is just a number and is equal to $b$ in our case, whereas $hat{n}$ is just $w$ and $vec{P}$ is $x$. So by definition, $w$ is orthogonal to the hyperplane.






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                      The reason why $w$ is normal to the hyper-plane is because we define it to be that way:



                      Suppose that we have a (hyper)plane in 3d space. Let $P_0$ be a point on this plane i.e. $P_0 = x_0, y_0, z_0$. Therefore the vector from the origin $(0,0,0)$ to this point is just $<x_0,y_0,z_0>$. Suppose that we have an arbitrary point $P (x,y,z)$ on the plane. The vector joining $P$ and $P_0$ is then given by:
                      $$ vec{P} - vec{P_0} = <x-x_0, y-y_0, z-z_0>$$
                      Note that this vector lies in the plane.



                      Now let $hat{n}$ be the normal (orthogonal) vector to the plane. Therefore:
                      $$ hat{n} bullet (vec{P}-vec{P_0}) = 0$$
                      Therefore:
                      $$hat{n} bullet vec{P}- hat{n} bullet vec{P_0} = 0$$
                      Note that $-hat{n} bullet vec{P_0}$ is just a number and is equal to $b$ in our case, whereas $hat{n}$ is just $w$ and $vec{P}$ is $x$. So by definition, $w$ is orthogonal to the hyperplane.







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                          Using the algebraic definition of a vector being orthogonal to a hyperplane:



                          $forall x_1, x_2$ on the separating hyperplane,



                          $$ w^T(x_1-x_2)=(w^Tx_1 + b)-(w^Tx_2 + b)=0-0=0 smallBox.$$






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                            Using the algebraic definition of a vector being orthogonal to a hyperplane:



                            $forall x_1, x_2$ on the separating hyperplane,



                            $$ w^T(x_1-x_2)=(w^Tx_1 + b)-(w^Tx_2 + b)=0-0=0 smallBox.$$






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                              Using the algebraic definition of a vector being orthogonal to a hyperplane:



                              $forall x_1, x_2$ on the separating hyperplane,



                              $$ w^T(x_1-x_2)=(w^Tx_1 + b)-(w^Tx_2 + b)=0-0=0 smallBox.$$






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                              Using the algebraic definition of a vector being orthogonal to a hyperplane:



                              $forall x_1, x_2$ on the separating hyperplane,



                              $$ w^T(x_1-x_2)=(w^Tx_1 + b)-(w^Tx_2 + b)=0-0=0 smallBox.$$







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                                  Let the decision boundary be defined as $w^Tx + b = 0$. Consider the points $x_a$ and $x_b$, which lie on the decision boundary. This gives us two equations:



                                  begin{equation}
                                  w^Tx_a + b = 0 \
                                  w^Tx_b + b = 0
                                  end{equation}



                                  Subtracting these two equations gives us $w^T.(x_a - x_b) = 0$. Note that the vector $x_a - x_b$ lies on the decision boundary, and it is directed from $x_b$ to $x_a$. Since the dot product $w^T.(x_a - x_b)$ is zero, $w^T$ must be orthogonal to $x_a - x_b$, and in turn, to the decision boundary.






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                                    Let the decision boundary be defined as $w^Tx + b = 0$. Consider the points $x_a$ and $x_b$, which lie on the decision boundary. This gives us two equations:



                                    begin{equation}
                                    w^Tx_a + b = 0 \
                                    w^Tx_b + b = 0
                                    end{equation}



                                    Subtracting these two equations gives us $w^T.(x_a - x_b) = 0$. Note that the vector $x_a - x_b$ lies on the decision boundary, and it is directed from $x_b$ to $x_a$. Since the dot product $w^T.(x_a - x_b)$ is zero, $w^T$ must be orthogonal to $x_a - x_b$, and in turn, to the decision boundary.






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                                      Let the decision boundary be defined as $w^Tx + b = 0$. Consider the points $x_a$ and $x_b$, which lie on the decision boundary. This gives us two equations:



                                      begin{equation}
                                      w^Tx_a + b = 0 \
                                      w^Tx_b + b = 0
                                      end{equation}



                                      Subtracting these two equations gives us $w^T.(x_a - x_b) = 0$. Note that the vector $x_a - x_b$ lies on the decision boundary, and it is directed from $x_b$ to $x_a$. Since the dot product $w^T.(x_a - x_b)$ is zero, $w^T$ must be orthogonal to $x_a - x_b$, and in turn, to the decision boundary.






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                                      Let the decision boundary be defined as $w^Tx + b = 0$. Consider the points $x_a$ and $x_b$, which lie on the decision boundary. This gives us two equations:



                                      begin{equation}
                                      w^Tx_a + b = 0 \
                                      w^Tx_b + b = 0
                                      end{equation}



                                      Subtracting these two equations gives us $w^T.(x_a - x_b) = 0$. Note that the vector $x_a - x_b$ lies on the decision boundary, and it is directed from $x_b$ to $x_a$. Since the dot product $w^T.(x_a - x_b)$ is zero, $w^T$ must be orthogonal to $x_a - x_b$, and in turn, to the decision boundary.







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