Desert poles but arctic equators; trying to find out if specific way is possible
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I'm trying to create a planet with a hot desert north and south pole but a cold equator. Is this possible? and if so how? And if it's heavily related to space how would night and day work on this place?
I don't want a high fantasy reason, the world having 2 suns, or a network of underground volcanoes that are only heating up the north and south but not the middle.
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I'm trying to create a planet with a hot desert north and south pole but a cold equator. Is this possible? and if so how? And if it's heavily related to space how would night and day work on this place?
I don't want a high fantasy reason, the world having 2 suns, or a network of underground volcanoes that are only heating up the north and south but not the middle.
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Slap a thick enough atmosphere on your planet (earth + 25% at least) and create Tibetian-like highlands all around your equator, while eliminating axial tilt to create moderate climate. Plus, huge continents around the poles with next to no precipitation.
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@Erik, that's probably the best answer so far. You should put it as a answer instead of a comment
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I'm trying to create a planet with a hot desert north and south pole but a cold equator. Is this possible? and if so how? And if it's heavily related to space how would night and day work on this place?
I don't want a high fantasy reason, the world having 2 suns, or a network of underground volcanoes that are only heating up the north and south but not the middle.
space weather temperature polar-region
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I'm trying to create a planet with a hot desert north and south pole but a cold equator. Is this possible? and if so how? And if it's heavily related to space how would night and day work on this place?
I don't want a high fantasy reason, the world having 2 suns, or a network of underground volcanoes that are only heating up the north and south but not the middle.
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Slap a thick enough atmosphere on your planet (earth + 25% at least) and create Tibetian-like highlands all around your equator, while eliminating axial tilt to create moderate climate. Plus, huge continents around the poles with next to no precipitation.
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@Erik, that's probably the best answer so far. You should put it as a answer instead of a comment
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Slap a thick enough atmosphere on your planet (earth + 25% at least) and create Tibetian-like highlands all around your equator, while eliminating axial tilt to create moderate climate. Plus, huge continents around the poles with next to no precipitation.
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@Erik, that's probably the best answer so far. You should put it as a answer instead of a comment
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Slap a thick enough atmosphere on your planet (earth + 25% at least) and create Tibetian-like highlands all around your equator, while eliminating axial tilt to create moderate climate. Plus, huge continents around the poles with next to no precipitation.
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Slap a thick enough atmosphere on your planet (earth + 25% at least) and create Tibetian-like highlands all around your equator, while eliminating axial tilt to create moderate climate. Plus, huge continents around the poles with next to no precipitation.
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– Erik
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@Erik, that's probably the best answer so far. You should put it as a answer instead of a comment
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Starting with the Earth as a template:
- Move it closer to the sun
- Reduce axial tilt
- Add thick rings
Rings around a planet like Earth would last a few million years at best, but we've been around for less time than that.
The poles would be hot due to star proximity. The rings would reduce radiation on and close to the equator, making it cold.
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hmm Assuming the standard earth tilt (which isn't 90 degrees, it's tilted back by 23%), are saying to reduce the tilt closer to 90 %? Also the ring idea is interesting, but in the equator, wouldn't it be a super thin like from horizon to horizon? or are you thinking of a thicker ring to block out the sun at certain parts of the day? (sorry for the dumb questions)
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The bodies making up the rings must either orbit in a single plane (thus making the shadow ineffective) or else they will be quickly converted into dust, impact the planet or be ejected from the system...
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– AlexP
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@AlexP I said so, the rings won't last much, geologically speaking.
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– Renan
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@Rugiewit I mean bring it closer to 0, not 90. Also, thin is a matter of opinion. The shadow could span a handful degrees of latitude.
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@Renan You are right about shooting stars. I ran the numbers for Saturns ring rain but asduming a rocky composition. I got 0.08 W/m^2 in the equatorial band. (assuming it all goes down in a 10 km band arround the equator)
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Have an axis tilt [1] over 56° or under 124°
Between these points the poles and the equator switch climate. Technically speaking the poles simply have a higher thermal insulation average per year than the equator. This graphic shows the relationship between axial tilt (obliquity) and the yearly average temperature (insulation) for a given latitude.
I'm unsure where this graphic comes from. I encountered it via a Quora post and took a screenshot. I was unable to find said post again, so this is an uploaded version on the screenshot. Should anyone know the source, please link it in a comment.
Looking at the graphs having an axial tilt near the limits won't give you polar deserts (actually the poles would be tropical with a ring of deserts arround them, but some tweaking could reduce the rainforest to desert) and equatorial ice capes, but overally global moderate average temperatures. At 90° axial tilt the poles have the warmest average temperature and the equator the coldest.
Yet keep in mind that I'm talking about yearly averages. An object that is at absolute zero for half a year and at 273 C° for the other averages out to moderate 0 C°. At 90° this illustation isn't far from the fact. If one hemisphere on a 90° world experiences winter it also experiences night. Only night for 1/4 of the year. Vice versa for the other hemisphere and summer. Autum and spring will be moderate-ish.
The equator will be the coldest place on such a planet, but as the graph shows not nearly as cold as Earth's poles. I'm uncertain if permanent icecaps are possible and while they aren't out of the question a tundra belt seems more plausabile in most cases. The seasons in the region will be two "twilight" seasons in winter and summer and "rotation day" seasons in autumn and spring.
The poles will be deserts in the sense of desolate wastelands, swinging between the hottest and coldest points on the planet on a half-yearly basis. The intermediate seasons will be slightly more moderate, but the temperature difference will purge anything staying longer than these seasons.
How extreme the temperature differences will be depends on whether or not the circulation cells in the atmospere and the rotational forces creating them are stronger than the winds thermal pressures, which will try to redistribute warm air equally across the surface. This is what happens on tidally locked planets where similar temperature differences can be found according to the latest simulations. I wasn't able to find any material on this case so choose whatever fits you needs.
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Changing axial tilt is by far the easiest way to achive your goal. My recommendation would be to place the planet near the outer edge if the habitable zone to make the equator as cold as possible, raising the plausibility of an ice shild surviving the intermediate seasons. The poles will still be deserts going from frying ot freezing, but that's a cool extra. Tilt wise I would stick close to 90°, keeping the equator as cold as possible and making the seasonal cycle simple. While nothing short of a climate simulation will give you the full picture, this video [2] might help.
For further reading I would recommend this paper [3] on versions of Earth with different axial tilt.
[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_tilt
[2] https://youtu.be/J4K3H9aNLpE
[3] https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&html_redirect=1&redir_token=3JAkHxRedLFbHxzvUdN1gVlo-1p8MTU1NjYxOTY0MUAxNTU2NTMzMjQx&q=http%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2FQGA6Ga&v=J4K3H9aNLpE (Pdf)
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@AlexP What do you mean to say?
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@TheDyingOfLight It's shorthand for "replace every instance of the wordinsulation
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Physics is not your friend here, the equator gets more sunlight coming in at a more vertical angle and passing through less atmosphere. This means higher temperatures.
The one thing that does counteract that is altitude, so the solution to your problem is to have a very high plateau or mountain range that happens to run roughly around the equator of the planet. Just think of the Himalayas for example which are at the same latitude as Egypt and India and yet have permanent snow cover.
It would be an odd coincidence to have it run like that and continental drift over millions or billions of years would change things but for several million years you could have a mostly cold equator with maybe occasional warmer valleys where the altitude drops and obviously if you had any coasts or oceans they would be tropical.
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If you don't insist that your polar desert be hot, look no further than Earth.
The South Polar Plateau in Antarctica is one of the most arid landmasses on Earth, with annual precipitation of about 7 cm of snow (convert that to liquid, and that's drier than the Atacama Desert in Chile and Peru). The northern ice cap is similarly arid, though it's harder to notice with the sea ice (formed by surface freezing of sea water, for the most part).
Move the Earth a couple million miles further from the sun, and the poles will get even drier (less water evaporating from the oceans).
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While it is improbable that a planet like this would exist given that we have not yet observed one in our universe. Having the planet's axis of rotation be a line tangent to it's orbital path would move your equator to be a band that would run through where the poles are on Earth while the new poles would be on the right and left sides of the planet.
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You know that your answer is not possible right? Apart from the gyroscopic effect, what you've created is just a planet with it's equator at ninety degrees to the ecliptic of the solar system, and just as hot. Your answer doesn't answer the question as to how to make the equator colder. -1
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The north and south poles are by definition the places where the axis of rotation intersects the surface... A planet rotating north to south is a impossible because the meanings of words "north" and "south" forbid it.
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+1. While orbital mechanics won't allow a spinning axis along the path of orbit (at least we haven't yet found a planet to upset our math in that regard... that does happen from time to time), Uranus demonstrates that you can have an axis pointing toward the sun. This would make the solar pole hot as a pancake, the equator pretty cold, but the non-solar pole darn close to absolute zero. It's half of what the OP wants, and possibly the only natural solution he'll get.
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@JBH, Uranus only has its axis pointing toward the sun during a solstice. Then 21 years later is the equinox, and the sun is roughly above the equator. Another 21 years and it's the opposite pole that's pointing at the sun. In relation to the sun, its axis moves just like any other planet's, just pointing at an odder angle.
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Your planet sits in the rotational center between two binary stars. One star shines on one pole, the other star shines on the other pole, the equator is in perpetual dawn.
Caveat.
See the edit to this answer, which claims that such a system would be instable.
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This was my first thought too, but I could not think of a reason why the poles would orient to both suns that would not pull the planet into an orbit of one or the other.
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Starting with the Earth as a template:
- Move it closer to the sun
- Reduce axial tilt
- Add thick rings
Rings around a planet like Earth would last a few million years at best, but we've been around for less time than that.
The poles would be hot due to star proximity. The rings would reduce radiation on and close to the equator, making it cold.
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hmm Assuming the standard earth tilt (which isn't 90 degrees, it's tilted back by 23%), are saying to reduce the tilt closer to 90 %? Also the ring idea is interesting, but in the equator, wouldn't it be a super thin like from horizon to horizon? or are you thinking of a thicker ring to block out the sun at certain parts of the day? (sorry for the dumb questions)
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The bodies making up the rings must either orbit in a single plane (thus making the shadow ineffective) or else they will be quickly converted into dust, impact the planet or be ejected from the system...
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– AlexP
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@AlexP I said so, the rings won't last much, geologically speaking.
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– Renan
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@Rugiewit I mean bring it closer to 0, not 90. Also, thin is a matter of opinion. The shadow could span a handful degrees of latitude.
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@Renan You are right about shooting stars. I ran the numbers for Saturns ring rain but asduming a rocky composition. I got 0.08 W/m^2 in the equatorial band. (assuming it all goes down in a 10 km band arround the equator)
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Starting with the Earth as a template:
- Move it closer to the sun
- Reduce axial tilt
- Add thick rings
Rings around a planet like Earth would last a few million years at best, but we've been around for less time than that.
The poles would be hot due to star proximity. The rings would reduce radiation on and close to the equator, making it cold.
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hmm Assuming the standard earth tilt (which isn't 90 degrees, it's tilted back by 23%), are saying to reduce the tilt closer to 90 %? Also the ring idea is interesting, but in the equator, wouldn't it be a super thin like from horizon to horizon? or are you thinking of a thicker ring to block out the sun at certain parts of the day? (sorry for the dumb questions)
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The bodies making up the rings must either orbit in a single plane (thus making the shadow ineffective) or else they will be quickly converted into dust, impact the planet or be ejected from the system...
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– AlexP
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@AlexP I said so, the rings won't last much, geologically speaking.
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– Renan
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@Rugiewit I mean bring it closer to 0, not 90. Also, thin is a matter of opinion. The shadow could span a handful degrees of latitude.
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– Renan
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@Renan You are right about shooting stars. I ran the numbers for Saturns ring rain but asduming a rocky composition. I got 0.08 W/m^2 in the equatorial band. (assuming it all goes down in a 10 km band arround the equator)
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Starting with the Earth as a template:
- Move it closer to the sun
- Reduce axial tilt
- Add thick rings
Rings around a planet like Earth would last a few million years at best, but we've been around for less time than that.
The poles would be hot due to star proximity. The rings would reduce radiation on and close to the equator, making it cold.
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Starting with the Earth as a template:
- Move it closer to the sun
- Reduce axial tilt
- Add thick rings
Rings around a planet like Earth would last a few million years at best, but we've been around for less time than that.
The poles would be hot due to star proximity. The rings would reduce radiation on and close to the equator, making it cold.
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hmm Assuming the standard earth tilt (which isn't 90 degrees, it's tilted back by 23%), are saying to reduce the tilt closer to 90 %? Also the ring idea is interesting, but in the equator, wouldn't it be a super thin like from horizon to horizon? or are you thinking of a thicker ring to block out the sun at certain parts of the day? (sorry for the dumb questions)
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The bodies making up the rings must either orbit in a single plane (thus making the shadow ineffective) or else they will be quickly converted into dust, impact the planet or be ejected from the system...
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– AlexP
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@AlexP I said so, the rings won't last much, geologically speaking.
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– Renan
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@Rugiewit I mean bring it closer to 0, not 90. Also, thin is a matter of opinion. The shadow could span a handful degrees of latitude.
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@Renan You are right about shooting stars. I ran the numbers for Saturns ring rain but asduming a rocky composition. I got 0.08 W/m^2 in the equatorial band. (assuming it all goes down in a 10 km band arround the equator)
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hmm Assuming the standard earth tilt (which isn't 90 degrees, it's tilted back by 23%), are saying to reduce the tilt closer to 90 %? Also the ring idea is interesting, but in the equator, wouldn't it be a super thin like from horizon to horizon? or are you thinking of a thicker ring to block out the sun at certain parts of the day? (sorry for the dumb questions)
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The bodies making up the rings must either orbit in a single plane (thus making the shadow ineffective) or else they will be quickly converted into dust, impact the planet or be ejected from the system...
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– AlexP
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@AlexP I said so, the rings won't last much, geologically speaking.
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– Renan
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@Rugiewit I mean bring it closer to 0, not 90. Also, thin is a matter of opinion. The shadow could span a handful degrees of latitude.
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– Renan
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@Renan You are right about shooting stars. I ran the numbers for Saturns ring rain but asduming a rocky composition. I got 0.08 W/m^2 in the equatorial band. (assuming it all goes down in a 10 km band arround the equator)
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hmm Assuming the standard earth tilt (which isn't 90 degrees, it's tilted back by 23%), are saying to reduce the tilt closer to 90 %? Also the ring idea is interesting, but in the equator, wouldn't it be a super thin like from horizon to horizon? or are you thinking of a thicker ring to block out the sun at certain parts of the day? (sorry for the dumb questions)
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hmm Assuming the standard earth tilt (which isn't 90 degrees, it's tilted back by 23%), are saying to reduce the tilt closer to 90 %? Also the ring idea is interesting, but in the equator, wouldn't it be a super thin like from horizon to horizon? or are you thinking of a thicker ring to block out the sun at certain parts of the day? (sorry for the dumb questions)
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The bodies making up the rings must either orbit in a single plane (thus making the shadow ineffective) or else they will be quickly converted into dust, impact the planet or be ejected from the system...
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– AlexP
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The bodies making up the rings must either orbit in a single plane (thus making the shadow ineffective) or else they will be quickly converted into dust, impact the planet or be ejected from the system...
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– AlexP
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@AlexP I said so, the rings won't last much, geologically speaking.
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– Renan
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@AlexP I said so, the rings won't last much, geologically speaking.
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– Renan
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@Rugiewit I mean bring it closer to 0, not 90. Also, thin is a matter of opinion. The shadow could span a handful degrees of latitude.
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– Renan
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@Rugiewit I mean bring it closer to 0, not 90. Also, thin is a matter of opinion. The shadow could span a handful degrees of latitude.
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– Renan
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@Renan You are right about shooting stars. I ran the numbers for Saturns ring rain but asduming a rocky composition. I got 0.08 W/m^2 in the equatorial band. (assuming it all goes down in a 10 km band arround the equator)
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@Renan You are right about shooting stars. I ran the numbers for Saturns ring rain but asduming a rocky composition. I got 0.08 W/m^2 in the equatorial band. (assuming it all goes down in a 10 km band arround the equator)
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Have an axis tilt [1] over 56° or under 124°
Between these points the poles and the equator switch climate. Technically speaking the poles simply have a higher thermal insulation average per year than the equator. This graphic shows the relationship between axial tilt (obliquity) and the yearly average temperature (insulation) for a given latitude.
I'm unsure where this graphic comes from. I encountered it via a Quora post and took a screenshot. I was unable to find said post again, so this is an uploaded version on the screenshot. Should anyone know the source, please link it in a comment.
Looking at the graphs having an axial tilt near the limits won't give you polar deserts (actually the poles would be tropical with a ring of deserts arround them, but some tweaking could reduce the rainforest to desert) and equatorial ice capes, but overally global moderate average temperatures. At 90° axial tilt the poles have the warmest average temperature and the equator the coldest.
Yet keep in mind that I'm talking about yearly averages. An object that is at absolute zero for half a year and at 273 C° for the other averages out to moderate 0 C°. At 90° this illustation isn't far from the fact. If one hemisphere on a 90° world experiences winter it also experiences night. Only night for 1/4 of the year. Vice versa for the other hemisphere and summer. Autum and spring will be moderate-ish.
The equator will be the coldest place on such a planet, but as the graph shows not nearly as cold as Earth's poles. I'm uncertain if permanent icecaps are possible and while they aren't out of the question a tundra belt seems more plausabile in most cases. The seasons in the region will be two "twilight" seasons in winter and summer and "rotation day" seasons in autumn and spring.
The poles will be deserts in the sense of desolate wastelands, swinging between the hottest and coldest points on the planet on a half-yearly basis. The intermediate seasons will be slightly more moderate, but the temperature difference will purge anything staying longer than these seasons.
How extreme the temperature differences will be depends on whether or not the circulation cells in the atmospere and the rotational forces creating them are stronger than the winds thermal pressures, which will try to redistribute warm air equally across the surface. This is what happens on tidally locked planets where similar temperature differences can be found according to the latest simulations. I wasn't able to find any material on this case so choose whatever fits you needs.
Conclusion
Changing axial tilt is by far the easiest way to achive your goal. My recommendation would be to place the planet near the outer edge if the habitable zone to make the equator as cold as possible, raising the plausibility of an ice shild surviving the intermediate seasons. The poles will still be deserts going from frying ot freezing, but that's a cool extra. Tilt wise I would stick close to 90°, keeping the equator as cold as possible and making the seasonal cycle simple. While nothing short of a climate simulation will give you the full picture, this video [2] might help.
For further reading I would recommend this paper [3] on versions of Earth with different axial tilt.
[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_tilt
[2] https://youtu.be/J4K3H9aNLpE
[3] https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&html_redirect=1&redir_token=3JAkHxRedLFbHxzvUdN1gVlo-1p8MTU1NjYxOTY0MUAxNTU2NTMzMjQx&q=http%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2FQGA6Ga&v=J4K3H9aNLpE (Pdf)
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– AlexP
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@AlexP What do you mean to say?
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– TheDyingOfLight
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@TheDyingOfLight It's shorthand for "replace every instance of the wordinsulation
withinsolation
." Insulation is measure of a reduction of heat transfer, while insolation is a measure of energy received from the Sun.
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– Skyler
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Have an axis tilt [1] over 56° or under 124°
Between these points the poles and the equator switch climate. Technically speaking the poles simply have a higher thermal insulation average per year than the equator. This graphic shows the relationship between axial tilt (obliquity) and the yearly average temperature (insulation) for a given latitude.
I'm unsure where this graphic comes from. I encountered it via a Quora post and took a screenshot. I was unable to find said post again, so this is an uploaded version on the screenshot. Should anyone know the source, please link it in a comment.
Looking at the graphs having an axial tilt near the limits won't give you polar deserts (actually the poles would be tropical with a ring of deserts arround them, but some tweaking could reduce the rainforest to desert) and equatorial ice capes, but overally global moderate average temperatures. At 90° axial tilt the poles have the warmest average temperature and the equator the coldest.
Yet keep in mind that I'm talking about yearly averages. An object that is at absolute zero for half a year and at 273 C° for the other averages out to moderate 0 C°. At 90° this illustation isn't far from the fact. If one hemisphere on a 90° world experiences winter it also experiences night. Only night for 1/4 of the year. Vice versa for the other hemisphere and summer. Autum and spring will be moderate-ish.
The equator will be the coldest place on such a planet, but as the graph shows not nearly as cold as Earth's poles. I'm uncertain if permanent icecaps are possible and while they aren't out of the question a tundra belt seems more plausabile in most cases. The seasons in the region will be two "twilight" seasons in winter and summer and "rotation day" seasons in autumn and spring.
The poles will be deserts in the sense of desolate wastelands, swinging between the hottest and coldest points on the planet on a half-yearly basis. The intermediate seasons will be slightly more moderate, but the temperature difference will purge anything staying longer than these seasons.
How extreme the temperature differences will be depends on whether or not the circulation cells in the atmospere and the rotational forces creating them are stronger than the winds thermal pressures, which will try to redistribute warm air equally across the surface. This is what happens on tidally locked planets where similar temperature differences can be found according to the latest simulations. I wasn't able to find any material on this case so choose whatever fits you needs.
Conclusion
Changing axial tilt is by far the easiest way to achive your goal. My recommendation would be to place the planet near the outer edge if the habitable zone to make the equator as cold as possible, raising the plausibility of an ice shild surviving the intermediate seasons. The poles will still be deserts going from frying ot freezing, but that's a cool extra. Tilt wise I would stick close to 90°, keeping the equator as cold as possible and making the seasonal cycle simple. While nothing short of a climate simulation will give you the full picture, this video [2] might help.
For further reading I would recommend this paper [3] on versions of Earth with different axial tilt.
[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_tilt
[2] https://youtu.be/J4K3H9aNLpE
[3] https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&html_redirect=1&redir_token=3JAkHxRedLFbHxzvUdN1gVlo-1p8MTU1NjYxOTY0MUAxNTU2NTMzMjQx&q=http%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2FQGA6Ga&v=J4K3H9aNLpE (Pdf)
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– AlexP
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@AlexP What do you mean to say?
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– TheDyingOfLight
37 mins ago
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@TheDyingOfLight It's shorthand for "replace every instance of the wordinsulation
withinsolation
." Insulation is measure of a reduction of heat transfer, while insolation is a measure of energy received from the Sun.
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– Skyler
2 mins ago
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Have an axis tilt [1] over 56° or under 124°
Between these points the poles and the equator switch climate. Technically speaking the poles simply have a higher thermal insulation average per year than the equator. This graphic shows the relationship between axial tilt (obliquity) and the yearly average temperature (insulation) for a given latitude.
I'm unsure where this graphic comes from. I encountered it via a Quora post and took a screenshot. I was unable to find said post again, so this is an uploaded version on the screenshot. Should anyone know the source, please link it in a comment.
Looking at the graphs having an axial tilt near the limits won't give you polar deserts (actually the poles would be tropical with a ring of deserts arround them, but some tweaking could reduce the rainforest to desert) and equatorial ice capes, but overally global moderate average temperatures. At 90° axial tilt the poles have the warmest average temperature and the equator the coldest.
Yet keep in mind that I'm talking about yearly averages. An object that is at absolute zero for half a year and at 273 C° for the other averages out to moderate 0 C°. At 90° this illustation isn't far from the fact. If one hemisphere on a 90° world experiences winter it also experiences night. Only night for 1/4 of the year. Vice versa for the other hemisphere and summer. Autum and spring will be moderate-ish.
The equator will be the coldest place on such a planet, but as the graph shows not nearly as cold as Earth's poles. I'm uncertain if permanent icecaps are possible and while they aren't out of the question a tundra belt seems more plausabile in most cases. The seasons in the region will be two "twilight" seasons in winter and summer and "rotation day" seasons in autumn and spring.
The poles will be deserts in the sense of desolate wastelands, swinging between the hottest and coldest points on the planet on a half-yearly basis. The intermediate seasons will be slightly more moderate, but the temperature difference will purge anything staying longer than these seasons.
How extreme the temperature differences will be depends on whether or not the circulation cells in the atmospere and the rotational forces creating them are stronger than the winds thermal pressures, which will try to redistribute warm air equally across the surface. This is what happens on tidally locked planets where similar temperature differences can be found according to the latest simulations. I wasn't able to find any material on this case so choose whatever fits you needs.
Conclusion
Changing axial tilt is by far the easiest way to achive your goal. My recommendation would be to place the planet near the outer edge if the habitable zone to make the equator as cold as possible, raising the plausibility of an ice shild surviving the intermediate seasons. The poles will still be deserts going from frying ot freezing, but that's a cool extra. Tilt wise I would stick close to 90°, keeping the equator as cold as possible and making the seasonal cycle simple. While nothing short of a climate simulation will give you the full picture, this video [2] might help.
For further reading I would recommend this paper [3] on versions of Earth with different axial tilt.
[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_tilt
[2] https://youtu.be/J4K3H9aNLpE
[3] https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&html_redirect=1&redir_token=3JAkHxRedLFbHxzvUdN1gVlo-1p8MTU1NjYxOTY0MUAxNTU2NTMzMjQx&q=http%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2FQGA6Ga&v=J4K3H9aNLpE (Pdf)
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Have an axis tilt [1] over 56° or under 124°
Between these points the poles and the equator switch climate. Technically speaking the poles simply have a higher thermal insulation average per year than the equator. This graphic shows the relationship between axial tilt (obliquity) and the yearly average temperature (insulation) for a given latitude.
I'm unsure where this graphic comes from. I encountered it via a Quora post and took a screenshot. I was unable to find said post again, so this is an uploaded version on the screenshot. Should anyone know the source, please link it in a comment.
Looking at the graphs having an axial tilt near the limits won't give you polar deserts (actually the poles would be tropical with a ring of deserts arround them, but some tweaking could reduce the rainforest to desert) and equatorial ice capes, but overally global moderate average temperatures. At 90° axial tilt the poles have the warmest average temperature and the equator the coldest.
Yet keep in mind that I'm talking about yearly averages. An object that is at absolute zero for half a year and at 273 C° for the other averages out to moderate 0 C°. At 90° this illustation isn't far from the fact. If one hemisphere on a 90° world experiences winter it also experiences night. Only night for 1/4 of the year. Vice versa for the other hemisphere and summer. Autum and spring will be moderate-ish.
The equator will be the coldest place on such a planet, but as the graph shows not nearly as cold as Earth's poles. I'm uncertain if permanent icecaps are possible and while they aren't out of the question a tundra belt seems more plausabile in most cases. The seasons in the region will be two "twilight" seasons in winter and summer and "rotation day" seasons in autumn and spring.
The poles will be deserts in the sense of desolate wastelands, swinging between the hottest and coldest points on the planet on a half-yearly basis. The intermediate seasons will be slightly more moderate, but the temperature difference will purge anything staying longer than these seasons.
How extreme the temperature differences will be depends on whether or not the circulation cells in the atmospere and the rotational forces creating them are stronger than the winds thermal pressures, which will try to redistribute warm air equally across the surface. This is what happens on tidally locked planets where similar temperature differences can be found according to the latest simulations. I wasn't able to find any material on this case so choose whatever fits you needs.
Conclusion
Changing axial tilt is by far the easiest way to achive your goal. My recommendation would be to place the planet near the outer edge if the habitable zone to make the equator as cold as possible, raising the plausibility of an ice shild surviving the intermediate seasons. The poles will still be deserts going from frying ot freezing, but that's a cool extra. Tilt wise I would stick close to 90°, keeping the equator as cold as possible and making the seasonal cycle simple. While nothing short of a climate simulation will give you the full picture, this video [2] might help.
For further reading I would recommend this paper [3] on versions of Earth with different axial tilt.
[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_tilt
[2] https://youtu.be/J4K3H9aNLpE
[3] https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&html_redirect=1&redir_token=3JAkHxRedLFbHxzvUdN1gVlo-1p8MTU1NjYxOTY0MUAxNTU2NTMzMjQx&q=http%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2FQGA6Ga&v=J4K3H9aNLpE (Pdf)
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– AlexP
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@AlexP What do you mean to say?
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– TheDyingOfLight
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@TheDyingOfLight It's shorthand for "replace every instance of the wordinsulation
withinsolation
." Insulation is measure of a reduction of heat transfer, while insolation is a measure of energy received from the Sun.
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– AlexP
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@AlexP What do you mean to say?
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– TheDyingOfLight
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@TheDyingOfLight It's shorthand for "replace every instance of the wordinsulation
withinsolation
." Insulation is measure of a reduction of heat transfer, while insolation is a measure of energy received from the Sun.
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– Skyler
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@AlexP What do you mean to say?
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– TheDyingOfLight
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@AlexP What do you mean to say?
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– TheDyingOfLight
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@TheDyingOfLight It's shorthand for "replace every instance of the word
insulation
with insolation
." Insulation is measure of a reduction of heat transfer, while insolation is a measure of energy received from the Sun.$endgroup$
– Skyler
2 mins ago
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@TheDyingOfLight It's shorthand for "replace every instance of the word
insulation
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." Insulation is measure of a reduction of heat transfer, while insolation is a measure of energy received from the Sun.$endgroup$
– Skyler
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Physics is not your friend here, the equator gets more sunlight coming in at a more vertical angle and passing through less atmosphere. This means higher temperatures.
The one thing that does counteract that is altitude, so the solution to your problem is to have a very high plateau or mountain range that happens to run roughly around the equator of the planet. Just think of the Himalayas for example which are at the same latitude as Egypt and India and yet have permanent snow cover.
It would be an odd coincidence to have it run like that and continental drift over millions or billions of years would change things but for several million years you could have a mostly cold equator with maybe occasional warmer valleys where the altitude drops and obviously if you had any coasts or oceans they would be tropical.
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Physics is not your friend here, the equator gets more sunlight coming in at a more vertical angle and passing through less atmosphere. This means higher temperatures.
The one thing that does counteract that is altitude, so the solution to your problem is to have a very high plateau or mountain range that happens to run roughly around the equator of the planet. Just think of the Himalayas for example which are at the same latitude as Egypt and India and yet have permanent snow cover.
It would be an odd coincidence to have it run like that and continental drift over millions or billions of years would change things but for several million years you could have a mostly cold equator with maybe occasional warmer valleys where the altitude drops and obviously if you had any coasts or oceans they would be tropical.
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Physics is not your friend here, the equator gets more sunlight coming in at a more vertical angle and passing through less atmosphere. This means higher temperatures.
The one thing that does counteract that is altitude, so the solution to your problem is to have a very high plateau or mountain range that happens to run roughly around the equator of the planet. Just think of the Himalayas for example which are at the same latitude as Egypt and India and yet have permanent snow cover.
It would be an odd coincidence to have it run like that and continental drift over millions or billions of years would change things but for several million years you could have a mostly cold equator with maybe occasional warmer valleys where the altitude drops and obviously if you had any coasts or oceans they would be tropical.
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Physics is not your friend here, the equator gets more sunlight coming in at a more vertical angle and passing through less atmosphere. This means higher temperatures.
The one thing that does counteract that is altitude, so the solution to your problem is to have a very high plateau or mountain range that happens to run roughly around the equator of the planet. Just think of the Himalayas for example which are at the same latitude as Egypt and India and yet have permanent snow cover.
It would be an odd coincidence to have it run like that and continental drift over millions or billions of years would change things but for several million years you could have a mostly cold equator with maybe occasional warmer valleys where the altitude drops and obviously if you had any coasts or oceans they would be tropical.
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If you don't insist that your polar desert be hot, look no further than Earth.
The South Polar Plateau in Antarctica is one of the most arid landmasses on Earth, with annual precipitation of about 7 cm of snow (convert that to liquid, and that's drier than the Atacama Desert in Chile and Peru). The northern ice cap is similarly arid, though it's harder to notice with the sea ice (formed by surface freezing of sea water, for the most part).
Move the Earth a couple million miles further from the sun, and the poles will get even drier (less water evaporating from the oceans).
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If you don't insist that your polar desert be hot, look no further than Earth.
The South Polar Plateau in Antarctica is one of the most arid landmasses on Earth, with annual precipitation of about 7 cm of snow (convert that to liquid, and that's drier than the Atacama Desert in Chile and Peru). The northern ice cap is similarly arid, though it's harder to notice with the sea ice (formed by surface freezing of sea water, for the most part).
Move the Earth a couple million miles further from the sun, and the poles will get even drier (less water evaporating from the oceans).
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If you don't insist that your polar desert be hot, look no further than Earth.
The South Polar Plateau in Antarctica is one of the most arid landmasses on Earth, with annual precipitation of about 7 cm of snow (convert that to liquid, and that's drier than the Atacama Desert in Chile and Peru). The northern ice cap is similarly arid, though it's harder to notice with the sea ice (formed by surface freezing of sea water, for the most part).
Move the Earth a couple million miles further from the sun, and the poles will get even drier (less water evaporating from the oceans).
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If you don't insist that your polar desert be hot, look no further than Earth.
The South Polar Plateau in Antarctica is one of the most arid landmasses on Earth, with annual precipitation of about 7 cm of snow (convert that to liquid, and that's drier than the Atacama Desert in Chile and Peru). The northern ice cap is similarly arid, though it's harder to notice with the sea ice (formed by surface freezing of sea water, for the most part).
Move the Earth a couple million miles further from the sun, and the poles will get even drier (less water evaporating from the oceans).
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While it is improbable that a planet like this would exist given that we have not yet observed one in our universe. Having the planet's axis of rotation be a line tangent to it's orbital path would move your equator to be a band that would run through where the poles are on Earth while the new poles would be on the right and left sides of the planet.
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You know that your answer is not possible right? Apart from the gyroscopic effect, what you've created is just a planet with it's equator at ninety degrees to the ecliptic of the solar system, and just as hot. Your answer doesn't answer the question as to how to make the equator colder. -1
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The north and south poles are by definition the places where the axis of rotation intersects the surface... A planet rotating north to south is a impossible because the meanings of words "north" and "south" forbid it.
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+1. While orbital mechanics won't allow a spinning axis along the path of orbit (at least we haven't yet found a planet to upset our math in that regard... that does happen from time to time), Uranus demonstrates that you can have an axis pointing toward the sun. This would make the solar pole hot as a pancake, the equator pretty cold, but the non-solar pole darn close to absolute zero. It's half of what the OP wants, and possibly the only natural solution he'll get.
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@JBH, Uranus only has its axis pointing toward the sun during a solstice. Then 21 years later is the equinox, and the sun is roughly above the equator. Another 21 years and it's the opposite pole that's pointing at the sun. In relation to the sun, its axis moves just like any other planet's, just pointing at an odder angle.
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– Keith Morrison
7 hours ago
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While it is improbable that a planet like this would exist given that we have not yet observed one in our universe. Having the planet's axis of rotation be a line tangent to it's orbital path would move your equator to be a band that would run through where the poles are on Earth while the new poles would be on the right and left sides of the planet.
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You know that your answer is not possible right? Apart from the gyroscopic effect, what you've created is just a planet with it's equator at ninety degrees to the ecliptic of the solar system, and just as hot. Your answer doesn't answer the question as to how to make the equator colder. -1
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– Agrajag
15 hours ago
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The north and south poles are by definition the places where the axis of rotation intersects the surface... A planet rotating north to south is a impossible because the meanings of words "north" and "south" forbid it.
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– AlexP
12 hours ago
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+1. While orbital mechanics won't allow a spinning axis along the path of orbit (at least we haven't yet found a planet to upset our math in that regard... that does happen from time to time), Uranus demonstrates that you can have an axis pointing toward the sun. This would make the solar pole hot as a pancake, the equator pretty cold, but the non-solar pole darn close to absolute zero. It's half of what the OP wants, and possibly the only natural solution he'll get.
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– JBH
10 hours ago
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@JBH, Uranus only has its axis pointing toward the sun during a solstice. Then 21 years later is the equinox, and the sun is roughly above the equator. Another 21 years and it's the opposite pole that's pointing at the sun. In relation to the sun, its axis moves just like any other planet's, just pointing at an odder angle.
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– Keith Morrison
7 hours ago
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While it is improbable that a planet like this would exist given that we have not yet observed one in our universe. Having the planet's axis of rotation be a line tangent to it's orbital path would move your equator to be a band that would run through where the poles are on Earth while the new poles would be on the right and left sides of the planet.
New contributor
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While it is improbable that a planet like this would exist given that we have not yet observed one in our universe. Having the planet's axis of rotation be a line tangent to it's orbital path would move your equator to be a band that would run through where the poles are on Earth while the new poles would be on the right and left sides of the planet.
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You know that your answer is not possible right? Apart from the gyroscopic effect, what you've created is just a planet with it's equator at ninety degrees to the ecliptic of the solar system, and just as hot. Your answer doesn't answer the question as to how to make the equator colder. -1
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– Agrajag
15 hours ago
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The north and south poles are by definition the places where the axis of rotation intersects the surface... A planet rotating north to south is a impossible because the meanings of words "north" and "south" forbid it.
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– AlexP
12 hours ago
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+1. While orbital mechanics won't allow a spinning axis along the path of orbit (at least we haven't yet found a planet to upset our math in that regard... that does happen from time to time), Uranus demonstrates that you can have an axis pointing toward the sun. This would make the solar pole hot as a pancake, the equator pretty cold, but the non-solar pole darn close to absolute zero. It's half of what the OP wants, and possibly the only natural solution he'll get.
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– JBH
10 hours ago
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@JBH, Uranus only has its axis pointing toward the sun during a solstice. Then 21 years later is the equinox, and the sun is roughly above the equator. Another 21 years and it's the opposite pole that's pointing at the sun. In relation to the sun, its axis moves just like any other planet's, just pointing at an odder angle.
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– Keith Morrison
7 hours ago
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You know that your answer is not possible right? Apart from the gyroscopic effect, what you've created is just a planet with it's equator at ninety degrees to the ecliptic of the solar system, and just as hot. Your answer doesn't answer the question as to how to make the equator colder. -1
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– Agrajag
15 hours ago
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The north and south poles are by definition the places where the axis of rotation intersects the surface... A planet rotating north to south is a impossible because the meanings of words "north" and "south" forbid it.
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– AlexP
12 hours ago
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+1. While orbital mechanics won't allow a spinning axis along the path of orbit (at least we haven't yet found a planet to upset our math in that regard... that does happen from time to time), Uranus demonstrates that you can have an axis pointing toward the sun. This would make the solar pole hot as a pancake, the equator pretty cold, but the non-solar pole darn close to absolute zero. It's half of what the OP wants, and possibly the only natural solution he'll get.
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– JBH
10 hours ago
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@JBH, Uranus only has its axis pointing toward the sun during a solstice. Then 21 years later is the equinox, and the sun is roughly above the equator. Another 21 years and it's the opposite pole that's pointing at the sun. In relation to the sun, its axis moves just like any other planet's, just pointing at an odder angle.
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– Keith Morrison
7 hours ago
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You know that your answer is not possible right? Apart from the gyroscopic effect, what you've created is just a planet with it's equator at ninety degrees to the ecliptic of the solar system, and just as hot. Your answer doesn't answer the question as to how to make the equator colder. -1
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– Agrajag
15 hours ago
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You know that your answer is not possible right? Apart from the gyroscopic effect, what you've created is just a planet with it's equator at ninety degrees to the ecliptic of the solar system, and just as hot. Your answer doesn't answer the question as to how to make the equator colder. -1
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– Agrajag
15 hours ago
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The north and south poles are by definition the places where the axis of rotation intersects the surface... A planet rotating north to south is a impossible because the meanings of words "north" and "south" forbid it.
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– AlexP
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The north and south poles are by definition the places where the axis of rotation intersects the surface... A planet rotating north to south is a impossible because the meanings of words "north" and "south" forbid it.
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+1. While orbital mechanics won't allow a spinning axis along the path of orbit (at least we haven't yet found a planet to upset our math in that regard... that does happen from time to time), Uranus demonstrates that you can have an axis pointing toward the sun. This would make the solar pole hot as a pancake, the equator pretty cold, but the non-solar pole darn close to absolute zero. It's half of what the OP wants, and possibly the only natural solution he'll get.
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– JBH
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+1. While orbital mechanics won't allow a spinning axis along the path of orbit (at least we haven't yet found a planet to upset our math in that regard... that does happen from time to time), Uranus demonstrates that you can have an axis pointing toward the sun. This would make the solar pole hot as a pancake, the equator pretty cold, but the non-solar pole darn close to absolute zero. It's half of what the OP wants, and possibly the only natural solution he'll get.
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@JBH, Uranus only has its axis pointing toward the sun during a solstice. Then 21 years later is the equinox, and the sun is roughly above the equator. Another 21 years and it's the opposite pole that's pointing at the sun. In relation to the sun, its axis moves just like any other planet's, just pointing at an odder angle.
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– Keith Morrison
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@JBH, Uranus only has its axis pointing toward the sun during a solstice. Then 21 years later is the equinox, and the sun is roughly above the equator. Another 21 years and it's the opposite pole that's pointing at the sun. In relation to the sun, its axis moves just like any other planet's, just pointing at an odder angle.
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– Keith Morrison
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Your planet sits in the rotational center between two binary stars. One star shines on one pole, the other star shines on the other pole, the equator is in perpetual dawn.
Caveat.
See the edit to this answer, which claims that such a system would be instable.
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This was my first thought too, but I could not think of a reason why the poles would orient to both suns that would not pull the planet into an orbit of one or the other.
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– Nosajimiki
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Your planet sits in the rotational center between two binary stars. One star shines on one pole, the other star shines on the other pole, the equator is in perpetual dawn.
Caveat.
See the edit to this answer, which claims that such a system would be instable.
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This was my first thought too, but I could not think of a reason why the poles would orient to both suns that would not pull the planet into an orbit of one or the other.
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– Nosajimiki
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Your planet sits in the rotational center between two binary stars. One star shines on one pole, the other star shines on the other pole, the equator is in perpetual dawn.
Caveat.
See the edit to this answer, which claims that such a system would be instable.
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Your planet sits in the rotational center between two binary stars. One star shines on one pole, the other star shines on the other pole, the equator is in perpetual dawn.
Caveat.
See the edit to this answer, which claims that such a system would be instable.
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This was my first thought too, but I could not think of a reason why the poles would orient to both suns that would not pull the planet into an orbit of one or the other.
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– Nosajimiki
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This was my first thought too, but I could not think of a reason why the poles would orient to both suns that would not pull the planet into an orbit of one or the other.
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– Nosajimiki
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This was my first thought too, but I could not think of a reason why the poles would orient to both suns that would not pull the planet into an orbit of one or the other.
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– Nosajimiki
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This was my first thought too, but I could not think of a reason why the poles would orient to both suns that would not pull the planet into an orbit of one or the other.
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Slap a thick enough atmosphere on your planet (earth + 25% at least) and create Tibetian-like highlands all around your equator, while eliminating axial tilt to create moderate climate. Plus, huge continents around the poles with next to no precipitation.
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@Erik, that's probably the best answer so far. You should put it as a answer instead of a comment
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