Can you ready an action to attack a monster's natural weapon (a part of its body) with reach?
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In my current OOTA Group my party fought against a rocktopus. They attacked them from the ceiling out of reach for melee attacks.
Is it possible for the players to ready an attack with the trigger "when one of the tentacles attack I'm gonna hit it"?
Normally I would say no. If your target attacks you with a weapon with more reach and is out of your reach it shouldn't be possible to hit them with your readied action. But the melee weapon (the tentacle) is part of the rocktopus and I am not sure how to handle this situation.
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In my current OOTA Group my party fought against a rocktopus. They attacked them from the ceiling out of reach for melee attacks.
Is it possible for the players to ready an attack with the trigger "when one of the tentacles attack I'm gonna hit it"?
Normally I would say no. If your target attacks you with a weapon with more reach and is out of your reach it shouldn't be possible to hit them with your readied action. But the melee weapon (the tentacle) is part of the rocktopus and I am not sure how to handle this situation.
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I've not seen anything on this in 5e, but I'm pretty sure this was a specific example of a good time to use readied actions in either one of the 3rd-era products or Pathfinder.
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– gatherer818
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The optional Disarm rules provide a precedent for being able to attack enemies' weaponry, whereas the fact that reach natural weapon attacks do not allow an attack of opportunity provide opposing evidence that natural weapon attacks may not provide enough time or chances for the creature making them to be a viable target.
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– Larkeith
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@Larkeith the reason that reach attacks don't provide opportunity attacks is because the creature is not moving in a game-terms sense (i.e. using their movement): "when a hostile creature that you can see moves out of your reach."
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– David Coffron
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In my current OOTA Group my party fought against a rocktopus. They attacked them from the ceiling out of reach for melee attacks.
Is it possible for the players to ready an attack with the trigger "when one of the tentacles attack I'm gonna hit it"?
Normally I would say no. If your target attacks you with a weapon with more reach and is out of your reach it shouldn't be possible to hit them with your readied action. But the melee weapon (the tentacle) is part of the rocktopus and I am not sure how to handle this situation.
dnd-5e combat readied-action natural-weapon reach
edited 5 hours ago
V2Blast
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asked 5 hours ago
XiremXirem
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In my current OOTA Group my party fought against a rocktopus. They attacked them from the ceiling out of reach for melee attacks.
Is it possible for the players to ready an attack with the trigger "when one of the tentacles attack I'm gonna hit it"?
Normally I would say no. If your target attacks you with a weapon with more reach and is out of your reach it shouldn't be possible to hit them with your readied action. But the melee weapon (the tentacle) is part of the rocktopus and I am not sure how to handle this situation.
dnd-5e combat readied-action natural-weapon reach
dnd-5e combat readied-action natural-weapon reach
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XiremXirem
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V2Blast
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V2Blast
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V2Blast
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28.1k5101171
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XiremXirem
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XiremXirem
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I've not seen anything on this in 5e, but I'm pretty sure this was a specific example of a good time to use readied actions in either one of the 3rd-era products or Pathfinder.
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– gatherer818
4 hours ago
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The optional Disarm rules provide a precedent for being able to attack enemies' weaponry, whereas the fact that reach natural weapon attacks do not allow an attack of opportunity provide opposing evidence that natural weapon attacks may not provide enough time or chances for the creature making them to be a viable target.
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– Larkeith
4 hours ago
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@Larkeith the reason that reach attacks don't provide opportunity attacks is because the creature is not moving in a game-terms sense (i.e. using their movement): "when a hostile creature that you can see moves out of your reach."
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– David Coffron
1 hour ago
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I've not seen anything on this in 5e, but I'm pretty sure this was a specific example of a good time to use readied actions in either one of the 3rd-era products or Pathfinder.
$endgroup$
– gatherer818
4 hours ago
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The optional Disarm rules provide a precedent for being able to attack enemies' weaponry, whereas the fact that reach natural weapon attacks do not allow an attack of opportunity provide opposing evidence that natural weapon attacks may not provide enough time or chances for the creature making them to be a viable target.
$endgroup$
– Larkeith
4 hours ago
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@Larkeith the reason that reach attacks don't provide opportunity attacks is because the creature is not moving in a game-terms sense (i.e. using their movement): "when a hostile creature that you can see moves out of your reach."
$endgroup$
– David Coffron
1 hour ago
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I've not seen anything on this in 5e, but I'm pretty sure this was a specific example of a good time to use readied actions in either one of the 3rd-era products or Pathfinder.
$endgroup$
– gatherer818
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
I've not seen anything on this in 5e, but I'm pretty sure this was a specific example of a good time to use readied actions in either one of the 3rd-era products or Pathfinder.
$endgroup$
– gatherer818
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
The optional Disarm rules provide a precedent for being able to attack enemies' weaponry, whereas the fact that reach natural weapon attacks do not allow an attack of opportunity provide opposing evidence that natural weapon attacks may not provide enough time or chances for the creature making them to be a viable target.
$endgroup$
– Larkeith
4 hours ago
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The optional Disarm rules provide a precedent for being able to attack enemies' weaponry, whereas the fact that reach natural weapon attacks do not allow an attack of opportunity provide opposing evidence that natural weapon attacks may not provide enough time or chances for the creature making them to be a viable target.
$endgroup$
– Larkeith
4 hours ago
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@Larkeith the reason that reach attacks don't provide opportunity attacks is because the creature is not moving in a game-terms sense (i.e. using their movement): "when a hostile creature that you can see moves out of your reach."
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– David Coffron
1 hour ago
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@Larkeith the reason that reach attacks don't provide opportunity attacks is because the creature is not moving in a game-terms sense (i.e. using their movement): "when a hostile creature that you can see moves out of your reach."
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– David Coffron
1 hour ago
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You sure can.
Even if you couldn't by the rules as written, I would suggest allowing it to reward player ingenuity, and allow for diversity in combat. However, this overruling is not necessary because the rules permit this action:
Choose a target [for the attack]. Pick a target within your attack’s range: a creature, an object, or a location.
While the tentacle is attacking you, the creature is within range and is therefore a valid target. This is further supported by the lead game designer, Jeremy Craford, on Twitter when he answered a similar question (while not an official ruling, it lends credence to my ruling above):
A creature grappled by a giant octopus can attack the octopus via the grappling tentacle.
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You sure can.
Even if you couldn't by the rules as written, I would suggest allowing it to reward player ingenuity, and allow for diversity in combat. However, this overruling is not necessary because the rules permit this action:
Choose a target [for the attack]. Pick a target within your attack’s range: a creature, an object, or a location.
While the tentacle is attacking you, the creature is within range and is therefore a valid target. This is further supported by the lead game designer, Jeremy Craford, on Twitter when he answered a similar question (while not an official ruling, it lends credence to my ruling above):
A creature grappled by a giant octopus can attack the octopus via the grappling tentacle.
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You sure can.
Even if you couldn't by the rules as written, I would suggest allowing it to reward player ingenuity, and allow for diversity in combat. However, this overruling is not necessary because the rules permit this action:
Choose a target [for the attack]. Pick a target within your attack’s range: a creature, an object, or a location.
While the tentacle is attacking you, the creature is within range and is therefore a valid target. This is further supported by the lead game designer, Jeremy Craford, on Twitter when he answered a similar question (while not an official ruling, it lends credence to my ruling above):
A creature grappled by a giant octopus can attack the octopus via the grappling tentacle.
answered 2 hours ago
David CoffronDavid Coffron
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You sure can.
Even if you couldn't by the rules as written, I would suggest allowing it to reward player ingenuity, and allow for diversity in combat. However, this overruling is not necessary because the rules permit this action:
Choose a target [for the attack]. Pick a target within your attack’s range: a creature, an object, or a location.
While the tentacle is attacking you, the creature is within range and is therefore a valid target. This is further supported by the lead game designer, Jeremy Craford, on Twitter when he answered a similar question (while not an official ruling, it lends credence to my ruling above):
A creature grappled by a giant octopus can attack the octopus via the grappling tentacle.
answered 2 hours ago
David CoffronDavid Coffron
41.2k3140296
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You sure can.
Even if you couldn't by the rules as written, I would suggest allowing it to reward player ingenuity, and allow for diversity in combat. However, this overruling is not necessary because the rules permit this action:
Choose a target [for the attack]. Pick a target within your attack’s range: a creature, an object, or a location.
While the tentacle is attacking you, the creature is within range and is therefore a valid target. This is further supported by the lead game designer, Jeremy Craford, on Twitter when he answered a similar question (while not an official ruling, it lends credence to my ruling above):
A creature grappled by a giant octopus can attack the octopus via the grappling tentacle.
answered 2 hours ago
David CoffronDavid Coffron
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I've not seen anything on this in 5e, but I'm pretty sure this was a specific example of a good time to use readied actions in either one of the 3rd-era products or Pathfinder.
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– gatherer818
4 hours ago
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The optional Disarm rules provide a precedent for being able to attack enemies' weaponry, whereas the fact that reach natural weapon attacks do not allow an attack of opportunity provide opposing evidence that natural weapon attacks may not provide enough time or chances for the creature making them to be a viable target.
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– Larkeith
4 hours ago
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@Larkeith the reason that reach attacks don't provide opportunity attacks is because the creature is not moving in a game-terms sense (i.e. using their movement): "when a hostile creature that you can see moves out of your reach."
$endgroup$
– David Coffron
1 hour ago