Is there a specific penalty for intentionally damaging chess pieces or the board?
If a player intentionally damages a chess set (e.g. breaks a piece in two, cracks the board, etc.), is there a specific penalty under FIDE rules? I'm not talking about moving pieces around surreptitiously or attempting to obscure the current game state, but something like a player getting angry and, while lawfully moving their knight, they bite it with their teeth, drool on it, or crack it with their hands before putting it back down.
It seems like it might fall under Rule 11.1, which provides
11.1 The players shall take no action that will bring the game of chess into disrepute.
According to 11.6, such a violation "shall lead to penalties in accordance with Article 12.9."
Would such an act fall under this general rule of sportsmanship, or is there a specific penalty (or specifically no penalty at all) for this?
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Robert ColumbiaRobert Columbia
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If a player intentionally damages a chess set (e.g. breaks a piece in two, cracks the board, etc.), is there a specific penalty under FIDE rules? I'm not talking about moving pieces around surreptitiously or attempting to obscure the current game state, but something like a player getting angry and, while lawfully moving their knight, they bite it with their teeth, drool on it, or crack it with their hands before putting it back down.
It seems like it might fall under Rule 11.1, which provides
11.1 The players shall take no action that will bring the game of chess into disrepute.
According to 11.6, such a violation "shall lead to penalties in accordance with Article 12.9."
Would such an act fall under this general rule of sportsmanship, or is there a specific penalty (or specifically no penalty at all) for this?
rules fide sportsmanship
asked 11 hours ago
Robert ColumbiaRobert Columbia
1455
1
this reminds me of the more extreme maxim that you cannot win a game of chess by shooting the grandmaster you are playing.
– Michael
4 hours ago
1
I once read about a player who came to the table after a "messy meal" and hands dripping with sauce. He then proceeded to j'adoube all his opponent's pieces and getting them coated with sauce as well. The opponent was disturbed and promptly lost. The author concluded that this kind of behavior is clearly unethical and the opponent should've called the arbiter. If there is a specific penalty however, I don't know what it is.
– Allure
4 hours ago
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If a player intentionally damages a chess set (e.g. breaks a piece in two, cracks the board, etc.), is there a specific penalty under FIDE rules? I'm not talking about moving pieces around surreptitiously or attempting to obscure the current game state, but something like a player getting angry and, while lawfully moving their knight, they bite it with their teeth, drool on it, or crack it with their hands before putting it back down.
It seems like it might fall under Rule 11.1, which provides
11.1 The players shall take no action that will bring the game of chess into disrepute.
According to 11.6, such a violation "shall lead to penalties in accordance with Article 12.9."
Would such an act fall under this general rule of sportsmanship, or is there a specific penalty (or specifically no penalty at all) for this?
rules fide sportsmanship
asked 11 hours ago
Robert ColumbiaRobert Columbia
1455
If a player intentionally damages a chess set (e.g. breaks a piece in two, cracks the board, etc.), is there a specific penalty under FIDE rules? I'm not talking about moving pieces around surreptitiously or attempting to obscure the current game state, but something like a player getting angry and, while lawfully moving their knight, they bite it with their teeth, drool on it, or crack it with their hands before putting it back down.
It seems like it might fall under Rule 11.1, which provides
11.1 The players shall take no action that will bring the game of chess into disrepute.
According to 11.6, such a violation "shall lead to penalties in accordance with Article 12.9."
Would such an act fall under this general rule of sportsmanship, or is there a specific penalty (or specifically no penalty at all) for this?
rules fide sportsmanship
rules fide sportsmanship
asked 11 hours ago
Robert ColumbiaRobert Columbia
1455
asked 11 hours ago
Robert ColumbiaRobert Columbia
1455
asked 11 hours ago
Robert ColumbiaRobert Columbia
1455
asked 11 hours ago
Robert ColumbiaRobert Columbia
1455
asked 11 hours ago
Robert ColumbiaRobert Columbia
1455
1455
1
this reminds me of the more extreme maxim that you cannot win a game of chess by shooting the grandmaster you are playing.
– Michael
4 hours ago
1
I once read about a player who came to the table after a "messy meal" and hands dripping with sauce. He then proceeded to j'adoube all his opponent's pieces and getting them coated with sauce as well. The opponent was disturbed and promptly lost. The author concluded that this kind of behavior is clearly unethical and the opponent should've called the arbiter. If there is a specific penalty however, I don't know what it is.
– Allure
4 hours ago
add a comment |
1
this reminds me of the more extreme maxim that you cannot win a game of chess by shooting the grandmaster you are playing.
– Michael
4 hours ago
1
I once read about a player who came to the table after a "messy meal" and hands dripping with sauce. He then proceeded to j'adoube all his opponent's pieces and getting them coated with sauce as well. The opponent was disturbed and promptly lost. The author concluded that this kind of behavior is clearly unethical and the opponent should've called the arbiter. If there is a specific penalty however, I don't know what it is.
– Allure
4 hours ago
1
1
this reminds me of the more extreme maxim that you cannot win a game of chess by shooting the grandmaster you are playing.
– Michael
4 hours ago
this reminds me of the more extreme maxim that you cannot win a game of chess by shooting the grandmaster you are playing.
– Michael
4 hours ago
1
1
I once read about a player who came to the table after a "messy meal" and hands dripping with sauce. He then proceeded to j'adoube all his opponent's pieces and getting them coated with sauce as well. The opponent was disturbed and promptly lost. The author concluded that this kind of behavior is clearly unethical and the opponent should've called the arbiter. If there is a specific penalty however, I don't know what it is.
– Allure
4 hours ago
I once read about a player who came to the table after a "messy meal" and hands dripping with sauce. He then proceeded to j'adoube all his opponent's pieces and getting them coated with sauce as well. The opponent was disturbed and promptly lost. The author concluded that this kind of behavior is clearly unethical and the opponent should've called the arbiter. If there is a specific penalty however, I don't know what it is.
– Allure
4 hours ago
add a comment |
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First of all I would consider the Preface:
The Laws of Chess cannot cover all possible situations that may arise
during a game, nor can they regulate all administrative questions.
Where cases are not precisely regulated by an Article of the Laws, it
should be possible to reach a correct decision by studying analogous
situations which are regulated in the Laws.
I think it should be obvious that the sort of behavior you describe is wrong even if there is no rule that explicitly says "biting, drooling on, or cracking pieces is not allowed". :-)
But you can also consider
11.5. It is forbidden to distract or annoy the opponent in any manner whatsoever [...]
I don't think any arbiter would question your claim of being annoyed if your opponent is chewing on the pieces!
answered 11 hours ago
itubitub
3,87811128
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The penalty for drooling or chewing on pieces is - you forfeit the opportunity to play any more games with normal adults.
answered 10 hours ago
Andrew BrooksAndrew Brooks
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I believe that one can also take this matter to court and sue the person who broke the pieces.
answered 4 hours ago
HoudineoHoudineo
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First of all I would consider the Preface:
The Laws of Chess cannot cover all possible situations that may arise
during a game, nor can they regulate all administrative questions.
Where cases are not precisely regulated by an Article of the Laws, it
should be possible to reach a correct decision by studying analogous
situations which are regulated in the Laws.
I think it should be obvious that the sort of behavior you describe is wrong even if there is no rule that explicitly says "biting, drooling on, or cracking pieces is not allowed". :-)
But you can also consider
11.5. It is forbidden to distract or annoy the opponent in any manner whatsoever [...]
I don't think any arbiter would question your claim of being annoyed if your opponent is chewing on the pieces!
answered 11 hours ago
itubitub
3,87811128
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First of all I would consider the Preface:
The Laws of Chess cannot cover all possible situations that may arise
during a game, nor can they regulate all administrative questions.
Where cases are not precisely regulated by an Article of the Laws, it
should be possible to reach a correct decision by studying analogous
situations which are regulated in the Laws.
I think it should be obvious that the sort of behavior you describe is wrong even if there is no rule that explicitly says "biting, drooling on, or cracking pieces is not allowed". :-)
But you can also consider
11.5. It is forbidden to distract or annoy the opponent in any manner whatsoever [...]
I don't think any arbiter would question your claim of being annoyed if your opponent is chewing on the pieces!
answered 11 hours ago
itubitub
3,87811128
add a comment |
First of all I would consider the Preface:
The Laws of Chess cannot cover all possible situations that may arise
during a game, nor can they regulate all administrative questions.
Where cases are not precisely regulated by an Article of the Laws, it
should be possible to reach a correct decision by studying analogous
situations which are regulated in the Laws.
I think it should be obvious that the sort of behavior you describe is wrong even if there is no rule that explicitly says "biting, drooling on, or cracking pieces is not allowed". :-)
But you can also consider
11.5. It is forbidden to distract or annoy the opponent in any manner whatsoever [...]
I don't think any arbiter would question your claim of being annoyed if your opponent is chewing on the pieces!
answered 11 hours ago
itubitub
3,87811128
First of all I would consider the Preface:
The Laws of Chess cannot cover all possible situations that may arise
during a game, nor can they regulate all administrative questions.
Where cases are not precisely regulated by an Article of the Laws, it
should be possible to reach a correct decision by studying analogous
situations which are regulated in the Laws.
I think it should be obvious that the sort of behavior you describe is wrong even if there is no rule that explicitly says "biting, drooling on, or cracking pieces is not allowed". :-)
But you can also consider
11.5. It is forbidden to distract or annoy the opponent in any manner whatsoever [...]
I don't think any arbiter would question your claim of being annoyed if your opponent is chewing on the pieces!
answered 11 hours ago
itubitub
3,87811128
answered 11 hours ago
itubitub
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answered 11 hours ago
itubitub
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answered 11 hours ago
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The penalty for drooling or chewing on pieces is - you forfeit the opportunity to play any more games with normal adults.
answered 10 hours ago
Andrew BrooksAndrew Brooks
3112
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The penalty for drooling or chewing on pieces is - you forfeit the opportunity to play any more games with normal adults.
answered 10 hours ago
Andrew BrooksAndrew Brooks
3112
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The penalty for drooling or chewing on pieces is - you forfeit the opportunity to play any more games with normal adults.
answered 10 hours ago
Andrew BrooksAndrew Brooks
3112
The penalty for drooling or chewing on pieces is - you forfeit the opportunity to play any more games with normal adults.
answered 10 hours ago
Andrew BrooksAndrew Brooks
3112
answered 10 hours ago
Andrew BrooksAndrew Brooks
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answered 10 hours ago
Andrew BrooksAndrew Brooks
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answered 10 hours ago
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I believe that one can also take this matter to court and sue the person who broke the pieces.
answered 4 hours ago
HoudineoHoudineo
1515
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I believe that one can also take this matter to court and sue the person who broke the pieces.
answered 4 hours ago
HoudineoHoudineo
1515
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I believe that one can also take this matter to court and sue the person who broke the pieces.
answered 4 hours ago
HoudineoHoudineo
1515
I believe that one can also take this matter to court and sue the person who broke the pieces.
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this reminds me of the more extreme maxim that you cannot win a game of chess by shooting the grandmaster you are playing.
– Michael
4 hours ago
1
I once read about a player who came to the table after a "messy meal" and hands dripping with sauce. He then proceeded to j'adoube all his opponent's pieces and getting them coated with sauce as well. The opponent was disturbed and promptly lost. The author concluded that this kind of behavior is clearly unethical and the opponent should've called the arbiter. If there is a specific penalty however, I don't know what it is.
– Allure
4 hours ago